Hi! Linda: Thanks sending out this assessment and ending the WGLC.
WG: In additional to the IPR check, one other thing I will be looking for in the second WGLC of this document is (a) evidence of review by the WG and (b) support by the WG to publish it (irrespective of whether there is charter milestone or not). There has been very little WG discussion of this document on the mailing list in the last 18 months and no formal meetings with it as a topic. Most discussions have been between a reduced set of document authors and directorates reviews/IETF LC/IESG balloting feedback. The last three documents sent to the IESG (-capability-data-model, monitoring-data-model, nsf-facing-interface-dm) have required substantial changes due to AD review, directorate review and IESG Review (to include them all still being blocked with multiple (2-4) DISCUSSes). I want to make sure that all future documents the WG requests publication on have gotten the needed review in the WG. Regards, Roman > -----Original Message----- > From: I2nsf <i2nsf-boun...@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Linda Dunbar > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 4:44 PM > To: t petch <ie...@btconnect.com>; Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong > <jaehoon.p...@gmail.com> > Cc: i2nsf@ietf.org; Patrick Lingga <patricklink...@gmail.com>; skku-iotlab- > members <skku-iotlab-memb...@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: [I2nsf] WGLC for draft-ietf-i2nsf-consumer-facing-interface-dm-16 > > I2NSF WG, > > Since the comments from Tom Petch haven't been addressed, we can't > complete the WGLC for draft-ietf-i2nsf-consumer-facing-interface-dm-16. > Agree with Tom, the WG needs to reach consensus if it is necessary for the > draft-ietf-i2nsf-consumer-facing-interface-dm to be consistent with the draft- > ietf-i2nsf-nsf-facing-interface-dm. > > Thank you, > Linda Dunbar > > -----Original Message----- > From: I2nsf <i2nsf-boun...@ietf.org> On Behalf Of t petch > Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2022 11:20 AM > To: Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong <jaehoon.p...@gmail.com> > Cc: i2nsf@ietf.org; Patrick Lingga <patricklink...@gmail.com>; skku-iotlab- > members <skku-iotlab-memb...@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: [I2nsf] WGLC for draft-ietf-i2nsf-consumer-facing-interface-dm-16 > > On 02/03/2022 14:40, Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong wrote: > > Hi Tom, > > Patrick and I are finalizing the revision of the NSF-Facing Interface > > YANG Data Model Draft this week. > > If I read it aright, the cut-off for updated I-D for the upcoming IETF is next > Monday. after which the system is in purdah for a while. The IETF website > might tell me about the latter (if it had a search engine:-) > > Tom Petch > > > > > > After this revision, we will reflect the comments from IESG on this > > Consumer-Facing Interface YANG Data Model Draft. > > > > Thanks for your comments. > > > > Best Regards, > > Paul > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 9:31 PM t petch <ie...@btconnect.com> wrote: > > > >> > >> On 17/02/2022 17:00, Linda Dunbar wrote: > >>> Hello Working Group, > >>> > >>> Many thanks to the authors to address all the comments from YANG > >>> Doctor > >> review. > >>> > >>> This email starts a three-weeks Working Group Last Call for > >> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdat > >> atracker.ietf.org%2Fdoc%2Fdraft-ietf-i2nsf-consumer-facing-interface- > >> > dm%2F&data=04%7C01%7Clinda.dunbar%40futurewei.com%7C0fd53b96 > 2cbb4 > >> > 208379608d9fc70f6f5%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7 > C6378 > >> > 18384373805664%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLC > JQIjoiV2 > >> > luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=F7VLxYYqc6kp > xD3 > >> w15O7Lewbot4zMgkGcozhpKViuJY%3D&reserved=0 > >> > >> I think that this is premature. As ever, there is substantial > >> overlap with other I-D in the set, notably nsf-facing, and, as ever, > >> the two I-D do things differently which I think can only confuse. If > >> there is a reason for the differences, then that needs calling out > >> IMHO; at the moment it seems arbitrary, such as which ...art reviewer last > saw the I-D! > >> > >> Further, nsf-facing has just attracted a large number of comments > >> from IESG Review, many if not most of which apply here. I think it > >> wrong for the IESG to be asked to do the same work all over again so > >> I think that the IESG comments on nsf-facing need resolving with the > >> IESG first and then the agreed solution - I expect that most of the > >> comments by the IESG will be accepted - can be incorporated into this I-D. > >> > >> Choice of protocols, reference for protocols, way of specifying > >> ranges of numbers, indeed way of specifying at all, string language, > >> volte, > >> RFC793 redundant, all those comments by Alexey on lack of clarity, > >> Rob's comments on identity descriptions, example labelling and so on. > >> > >> Tom Petch > >> > >>> This poll runs until March 10, 2022. > >>> > >>> We are also polling for knowledge of any undisclosed IPR that > >>> applies to > >> this Document, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance > >> with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > >>> If you are listed as an Author or a Contributor of this Document, > >>> please > >> respond to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of > >> any relevant undisclosed IPR. 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