John First I'd like to mention that your first choice for a short version of z/OS UNIX System Services, namely z/OS UNIX, may well be IBM's - considered - first choice. It is what is used in the library web pages such as
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/zshelves10.html Let us hope that those on the list who are open to reasoned argument adopt this as their preferred means of reference. As Pat indicated, your question regarding the relationship between "Unformatted System Services" and "z/OS UNIX System Services" falls down with what I left out of the above, namely VTAM. It has actually just been shown in a parallel thread, "USSTAB" that the correct USS is not only alive and well but has been, as it were, "taken over" by the IP side of Communications Server - from the VTAM, SNA, side. Only for the benefit of users of USS commands and messages of the TN3270 server - the possible point of contact and confusion with UNIX System Services - can system symbols be substituted into USS messages to the TN3270 client. > "I'm having a problem with USS! Please help!". Such messages I ignore. In my case, being one of the few to bother dealing with VTAM matters, I need to examine posts with such a thread title - and it's a pain when 9 times out of 10, maybe more, it's the wrong "USS"! - But I'm complaining only because prompted! Incidentally, you needn't have invented your thread title. We had a prime example over the end of June/beginning of July: "A few dumb USS questions". At least the first line mentioned POSIX. Chris Mason On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:47:55 -0500, McKown, John <jmck...@healthmarkets.com> wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List >> [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) >> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:25 AM >> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu >> Subject: Re: USS misuse >> >> In <4a70166c.7030...@bremultibank.com.pl>, on 07/29/2009 >> at 11:29 AM, "R.S." <r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl> said: >> >> >Is it so hard to understand that acronym/abbreviation is not a thing >> >that IBM or other company could establish? >> >> Is it so hard to understand that when two concepts are relevant to the >> same context that it is unhelpful to use the same >> abbreviation for both? >> ><snip> >> >> -- >> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT > >How are VTAM Unformatted System Services and z/OS UNIX System Services the same context? Unless somebody says something unhelpful like: "I'm having a problem with USS! Please help!". Such messages I ignore. A proper message should say something about whether the context is VTAM or UNIX. Unless the forum in which it is posted makes it obvious. E.g. VTAM USS questions should not be posted in MVS-OE. Of course, IBM-MAIN, is very generic, but a properly phrased question should resolve the context properly. > >However, just to say, I almost always say z/OS UNIX or just UNIX. I don't even like others' use of OMVS because I might not be sure if they mean the TSO OMVS command or as a generic for z/OS UNIX. > >-- >John McKown ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
