This, IMHO, is a good thing. In some versions of the HMC/SE, LOAD gets its IPL 
parameters from one place and 'load upon activate' gets the parameters from 
another. By using only Activate, a potential operator error is averted.  

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Bonno, Tuco
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Subject: Re: problem w/ data stream to System Operator console at ipl

"management" decided that operators would NOT use the "load" to do a normal ipl 
-- only ACTIVATE.
and they don't change anything -- they just respond "yes" when prompted as to 
whether they really really want to do this.
the process is the same for the other two lpars, and it works fine.  it worked 
find in *this* lpar until 2 months ago.

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van der Grijn, Bart (B)
Sent: Tuesday, 03 November, 2009 02:05 PM
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Subject: Re: problem w/ data stream to System Operator console at ipl

Our standard procedure is to use LOAD rather then activate for a normal
IPL, so I might be missing how this works. However, I always thought the
Activate of an object does whatever it needs to do to get the object in
the desired state, but nothing more. If nothing changes in your
activation profile for this LPAR, is there really anything for the
Activate to do? Did it really try to IPL?

You have the problem with just the one LPAR. Can it be that you're not
changing the profile for this LPAR while you are for the other LPARs? 

Bart
 

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Subject: Re: problem w/ data stream to System Operator console at ipl
<...>
  when you click on "activate" a small window opens up, saying"to view
activation profile for partition click 'view activation profile' " ; you
then get into a dialog which eventually allows you to see your L1 and L2
parms REGULAR DATA STREAM == the series of messages which appear on the
OPERATOR console, beginning w/ "IEA371I sys1.iplparm on device ..... "
and culminating w/ "IEA101a specify system parameters"
"what do you see .... " ==== nothing on the operator console; after you
enter your final "z eod" the stuff *already* on the operator console
stays there until it blanks itself out (the screen does) when the series
of messages beginning w/ IEA371I begin to arrive ;; when those messages
DO NOT arrive after 5 minutes, we know it's hung up and then we go do
the "reset/clear" 

no, we do not get the ipl successful message at the HMC; in any case,
the hardware console never changes color ; it's the (proprietary) IBM
HMCz9B Hardware Management Console Workplace v2.10.0; we got one
automatically w/ each of our z9 mainframes.  it's a GUI-type thing: a
"graphic user interface"

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