>:(

I'm surrounded by people who's skillsets would be on-par with the guys who
empty my trash can, if it weren't for CLISTs.  And they have jobs because I
wrote all kinds of automation to catch their mistakes.

Most people in sysadmin roles are thoroughly incompetent.  Which is good,
because people like us can keep our options open :)

Scott

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:58 AM, McKown, John <
[email protected]> wrote:

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Patrick Lyon
> > Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 10:53 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground
> >
> > On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:08:11 -0800, Ed Gould <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >I agree with you and other posters but I think I have some
> > evidence that
> > indicates IBM is essentially attempting to get rid of a lot
> > of sysprogs.
> >
> > Ed, while I see your point in your post I guess I have to
> > ask, why are there 2
> > of us managing our mainframe and 10+ (estimate) working in
> > the Windoze and
> > Unix groups?
> >
> > I guess my point is there will always be a need for sysprogs,
> > just like people
> > who install and maintain software on the toy boxes.
> >
> > Strictly my own views, of course.
>
> But how many of them are as relatively knowledgable in their platform as we
> older sysprogs on ours? Believe it or not, I once had an AIX admin (sysprog)
> ask me how to do some things in BASH scripting! He knew how to use SMITTY
> (however it is spelled) to do AIX admin, but was blank on doing things which
> were not pre-packaged.
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