>:( I'm surrounded by people who's skillsets would be on-par with the guys who empty my trash can, if it weren't for CLISTs. And they have jobs because I wrote all kinds of automation to catch their mistakes.
Most people in sysadmin roles are thoroughly incompetent. Which is good, because people like us can keep our options open :) Scott On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:58 AM, McKown, John < [email protected]> wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Patrick Lyon > > Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 10:53 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground > > > > On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:08:11 -0800, Ed Gould <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >I agree with you and other posters but I think I have some > > evidence that > > indicates IBM is essentially attempting to get rid of a lot > > of sysprogs. > > > > Ed, while I see your point in your post I guess I have to > > ask, why are there 2 > > of us managing our mainframe and 10+ (estimate) working in > > the Windoze and > > Unix groups? > > > > I guess my point is there will always be a need for sysprogs, > > just like people > > who install and maintain software on the toy boxes. > > > > Strictly my own views, of course. > > But how many of them are as relatively knowledgable in their platform as we > older sysprogs on ours? Believe it or not, I once had an AIX admin (sysprog) > ask me how to do some things in BASH scripting! He knew how to use SMITTY > (however it is spelled) to do AIX admin, but was blank on doing things which > were not pre-packaged. > > -- > John McKown > Systems Engineer IV > IT > > Administrative Services Group > > HealthMarkets(r) > > 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 > (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell > [email protected] * www.HealthMarkets.com > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or > proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please > contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original > message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and > issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake > Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of > TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

