I think the answer to this (below) is that what we are looking at is not the beginning of the end for z/Systems Programmers but the end of the beginning.
Ten releases from now (z/OS 20.x) and chimps will be able to do out jobs because IBM will have altered things to the point where highly trained sysprogs really aren't needed. In fact I believe there really is a very good chance to see the need for sysprogs disappear completely. Log into an IBM web site and download all the updates, fixes, new operating systems etc. Why not? Shortly it will be done with MS/Wondows and Linux. But who cares, we will all be eating strawberries and cream in waist deep water in the middle of Florida. --- On Fri, 11/13/09, Patrick Lyon <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Patrick Lyon <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground > To: [email protected] > Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 11:53 AM > On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:08:11 -0800, > Ed Gould <[email protected]> > wrote: > > >I agree with you and other posters but I think I have > some evidence that > indicates IBM is essentially attempting to get rid of a lot > of sysprogs. > > Ed, while I see your point in your post I guess I have to > ask, why are there 2 > of us managing our mainframe and 10+ (estimate) working in > the Windoze and > Unix groups? > > I guess my point is there will always be a need for > sysprogs, just like people > who install and maintain software on the toy boxes. > > Strictly my own views, of course. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access > instructions, > send email to [email protected] > with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

