Bang! For passing biased opinions! :-) TCO studies are not always commissioned with predicable conclusions. Lots are done in-house.
And if you have ever seen stupidity in action on TCO just look at any datacenter that has an "acre" of racks of blades and tell me that those onesies and twosies purchases to run SQL apps would not have been more cost-effective to deploy on a System z. This is a true story and not an isolated one at that. I even had an idiot enterprise architect tell me when I asked him about horizontal scalability of his apps and the datacenter floorspace at ZERO tell me it was merely a real estate issue (build another datacenter...sheesh!). Every shop I have ever been in DID grow in MIPS while I was there. No smokescreen there. Bob -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 6:55 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: 25 reasons why hardware is still hot at IBM David Crayford pisze: > Marian Gasparovic wrote: >> But I see TCO studies that show how System z is competitive and how >> customers can save money running on z instead of distributed. > > I would like to see those TCO studies. Truth is there are a lot of > companies (big ones included) that are moving > off mainframes to reduce the TCO. Those "distributed" systems come in > "very" big iron configurations and are > starting to match mainframes for RAS. Sad but true. The truth is there are no honest TCO studies. You pay for what is proven the study. The other truth is mainframe is *considered* as expensive and obsolete. Of course people who knows mainframe are *considered* as biased. The truth is that sometimes good enough is OK, so people do not want to pay for RAS capabilities. Last, but definitely not least is the number of new mainframe customers and customers at all very big secret - why ? ;-) We all feel/know/observe the number of mainframe sites is shrinking. We also know that the answer "but the number of MIPS is growing" is smokescreen - number of MIPS on my desktop grew up significantly, but the number of PCs remained the same. Disclaimer: Don't kill messenger! -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 0000025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2009 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 118.763.528 zotych. W zwizku z realizacj warunkowego podwyszenia kapitau zakadowego, na podstawie uchway XXI WZ z dnia 16 marca 2008r., oraz uchway XVI NWZ z dnia 27 padziernika 2008r., moe ulec podwyszeniu do kwoty 123.763.528 z. Akcje w podwyszonym kapitale zakadowym BRE Banku SA bd w caoci opacone. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
