--- On Tue, 6/29/10, Anne & Lynn Wheeler <l...@garlic.com> wrote:

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <l...@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: TSO region size
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Date: Tuesday, June 29, 2010, 2:07 PM

gerh...@valley.net (Gerhard Postpischil) writes:
> That doesn't sound right. Each TSO session runs in its own region, and
> you need an additional TCAM or VTAM region to handle terminal I/O. A
> machine with 4MB was considered large. So if you had three sessions of
> that size, your machine probably wasn't doing much else.
>
> In our case we opted to run Wylbur, with dozens of users, which gave
> as much higher productivity.
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They may not have been running MVS.
We had to shut down TSO on the weekends so production could get the memory.This 
was a 30+ years ago and I was 'asked" to explain the issue to the data center 
manager. He was not lets say smart (but not dumb either). I asked if I could 
erase some of his white board and I was drawing pictures (I understood) and at 
the end I summed it up as to that is why under MVS you do not have these issues 
under our SVS system you did. The woman in the room was smart but she said she 
somewhat understood and the manager said it didn't make sense and he was lost 
at virtual.I went through it again and explained how DAT worked carefully this 
time. I got done and he said he understood it. I left feeling I had 
accomplished something, ahh but I hadn't. 
The next week I get a call to go to floor 1720(if memory serves me) with no 
indication who was there and what (if anything was needed). I showed up and 
both people were there. The DC manager explained to me that they still did not 
get virtual and would I explain it one more time. So I took them from ground 
zero to Virtual and was asking if they understood or did I have to explain 
again. This time both got it and was extremely pleased that I was able to get 
them up to speed. I said no problem and walked out of the conference room think 
wow I am glad I am done with that. The next week I get a call from my VP asking 
if I had some time this Thursday(I think) and said well how long will I need as 
I have something I have to do Thursday afternoon. He assured me 2-3 hours would 
be the max.Anyway I walk into the room where this meeting was to be held and 
every single programming manager was there along with some staff. I was asked 
to give the class to the rest
 of the organization.  Oh great a group that will give me no end of grief. So I 
got up and used the white board and gave the same spiel to the management of 
programming. I went through the second spiel I gave the DC manager. I got only 
one question and that not even being close to a real question. I said wait till 
we are done and then I will answer the question.After I got done I asked if 
there were any questions and I got one or two that I had talked about but 
didn't understand how relocation occurred so I answered the question using the 
same terminology I had used the first time but this time I stepped them through 
exactly what was going on and all of a sudden both faces lit up and they said 
my explanation answered their question to a T. I asked once more if there were 
any questions and everybody seemed to understand. I am guessing it went really 
well as all the managers thanked my VP and he relayed it on to me. I got a 
bunch of free dinners (on the
 expense account but it was the thought that was important).
Ed




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