Thanks. Perfect. That's what I was looking for. I was sure I remembered
something like this.

> Not all software products use CARTs on their WTOs

Nope, but mine will. <g>

Charles

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Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 10:14 AM
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Subject: Re: NO RESPONSE RECEIVED

What SDSF is doing here is using the MGCRE service with the CART parameter
(the "CART" is the command response token) to send the operator command to
an EMCS console. 

The expectation in most cases is that the code that eventually executes in
whatever ASID because of the operator command looks at the CIB and sees that
there is a CART present and then uses the CART=CIBXCART specification on the
WTOs that writes messages containing the operator command response. This
allows the EMCS that SDSF has established to wake up and get the message(s).

Not all software products use CARTs on their WTOs and there may be
architectural reasons why some base z/OS components do not use CARTs either.
To cater for this, SDSF must establish a timer so it can give up waiting -
hence the setting in the SDSF options.  

Rob Scott
Lead Developer
Rocket Software
275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA
Tel: +1.617.614.2305
Email: rsc...@rs.com
Web: www.rocketsoftware.com 


-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf
Of Charles Mills
Sent: 08 September 2010 17:54
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: NO RESPONSE RECEIVED

When you issue an operator command from SDSF (/S proc or /D IPLINFO, for
example) what determines whether SDSF displays "NO RESPONSE RECEIVED" in the
upper right or displays the messages that result from the command's being
issued? /S myproc, for example, results in WTO messages being issued within
less than a tenth of second but SDSF says NO RESPONSE RECEIVED. 

>From SDSF's point of view, what is a "response"? I've looked at QEDIT and
CIB and I don't see a way to "respond" as opposed to just "doing something."

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