John, I'm glad to see you on the list and feeling better.
Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com PS> Thanks for mentioning Co:Z. We will be doing a free webinar next week on the distributed Co:Z Launcher. For details and enrollment information, see: http://dovetail.com/webinars.html On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 5:46 PM, John McKown <john.archie.mck...@gmail.com>wrote: > I agree. Also our programmers would most likely declare it too complicated > to use. > > Personally, if I want to do this sort of thing, I use Co:Z from Dovetailed > Technologies to run under z/OS UNIX using its piping. It is possible to > run > normal batch work via a UNIX shell. It is just a bit more difficulty to > allocate the datasets properly. > > -- > John McKown > Maranatha! <>< > Sent from my Vibrant Android phone. > > On Jun 12, 2011 4:21 PM, "Farley, Peter x23353" < > peter.far...@broadridge.com> > wrote: > > If I correctly understand the functioning of Batchpipes in that document, > ISTM that it has the disadvantage that if one end of the pipe fails for any > reason, then *both* ends would have to be rerun. That can be more > disruptive and batch-window-time-consuming than just needing to rerun one > of > them, perhaps even more so for really large volume batch applications which > one would think would gain the most benefit from this technology. > > Sometimes it not what a tool does when everything works correctly that > makes > or breaks the decision to use it or not, it is what happens when things > fail > that is the most crucial. > > After all, even in the days of 70xx hardware checkpointing was used, e.g. > for really large all-day tape sorts. No one wanted to rerun the whole-day > process all over from the beginning when a work tape inevitably snapped 20 > hours into the process. > > OTOH I personally would love to have it available to experiment with, but > that's just because I'm a dyed-in-the-wool techno-geek. > > Just my USD$0.02 worth. > > Peter > > P.S. - I found the OS/380 bookshelf on which BatchPipes OS/390 manuals are > located, and 3 of the 4 manuals are available as PDF's: > > http://publibfp.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/Shelves/ASF1BS11 > > I don't know if those are the latest ones, but they were the latest I could > find. > > HTH > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On > > Behalf Of Cheryl Watson > > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 3:26 PM > > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > > Subject: BatchPipes/MVS > > > > > Is anyone using this product? Is it worth the price (somewhere between > > $300-$2000/month)? Wou... > -- > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the > addressee and > may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader > of the > message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of > the > intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this > communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this > communication in > error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and > any > attachments from your system. > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / si... > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
