I'll be a bit contrary. I don't know about expense. We can't afford much of anything any more. I guess we're too small to succeed. But I've never had a problem with CMF in 20 years. But we are never bleeding edge. I have had some problems with Data Accelerator due to maintenance.
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HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 3:30 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: BMC CMF vs. IBM RMF > > I would have said "Bankrupting Mountain of Crap". :-) > > Rick > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------ > Vernooij, CP - SPLXM wrote: > > >>From your choice of language, I assume you ended up in this > group/forum > >unintentionally, by opening our door i.s.o. your manhole > cover. Be more > >careful where you go next time. > > > >Jeeez. > > > >Kees. > > > > > >"Nomen Nescio" <nob...@dizum.com> wrote in message > >news:<b6bb8fd9ebc3690f1ea46493a7d4c...@dizum.com>... > > > > > >>kees.verno...@klm.com (Vernooij, CP - SPLXM) wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>"Rick Fochtman" <rfocht...@ync.net> wrote in message > >>>news:<4e8f8f91.1040...@ync.net>... > >>> > >>> > >----------------------------------<snip>--------------------- > ----------- > > > > > >>>--- > >>> > >>> > >>>>>I have been looking at CMF vs. RMF as a question. > >>>>> > >>>>>Is there any pros or cons between the two? Any other products > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>besides CMF that competes with RMF on the mainframe? > >>> > >>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >--------------------------------<unsnip>--------------------- > ----------- > > > > > >>>--- > >>> > >>> > >>>>CMF is a wonderful product but it's very maintenance-sensitive, > >>>> > >>>> > >not > > > > > >>>only > >>> > >>> > >>>>for itself but for the rest of the system as well. It uses a > >>>> > >>>> > >number of > > > > > >>>>hooks that it places in z/OS code when it starts and removes > >>>> > >>>> > >during > > > > > >>>>shutdown. If there's a maintenance mis-match, you could be looking > >>>> > >>>> > >at > > > > > >>>a > >>> > >>> > >>>>system outage. BTDT GTSS. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>I NEVER expirienced this in all my life (which is about the time we > >>> > >>> > >run > > > > > >>>CMF). > >>> > >>> > >>So what? Just because you didn't have a problem doesn't > mean problems > >> > >> > >don't > > > > > >>exist. I'll bet what Rick says against anything you have to say. > >> > >> > >> > >>>>My choice is to stick with RMF. The numbers aren't as detailed but > >>>> > >>>> > >the > > > > > >>>>risks are FAR lower. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>FUD! > >>> > >>> > >>That's BMC all the way! Fire longtime employees and hire 10 > dollar an > >> > >> > >hour > > > > > >>Mexicans, Indians and Russians. If you want support or a fix, you're > >> > >> > >shit > > > > > >>out of luck with BMC. BMC: Bastards Motherfuckers & Cheats > >> > >> > >> > >>>Kees. > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >******************************************************** > >For information, services and offers, please visit our web > site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may > contain confidential and privileged material intended for the > addressee only. 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