Yes, that is my experience too. I can add that if you also purchase Mainview, you have a beautiful monitor for keeping a good eye on the behavings of your system, with very detailled drill down views and highly customizable presentation. I don't think RMF has this, at least not in that detail. And don't get me started on Omegamon/Tivoli, there most of the money was spent, in my opinion, on a nice GUI, not on producing useful information (defined capacities and group capacity limits: never heard of).
Kees. "McKown, John" <john.mck...@healthmarkets.com> wrote in message news:<a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea00b038bb...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom>. .. > I'll be a bit contrary. I don't know about expense. We can't afford much of anything any more. I guess we're too small to succeed. But I've never had a problem with CMF in 20 years. But we are never bleeding edge. I have had some problems with Data Accelerator due to maintenance. > > -- > John McKown > Systems Engineer IV > IT > > Administrative Services Group > > HealthMarkets(r) > > 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 > (817) 255-3225 phone * > john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman > > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 3:30 PM > > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > > Subject: Re: BMC CMF vs. IBM RMF > > > > I would have said "Bankrupting Mountain of Crap". :-) > > > > Rick > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------ > > Vernooij, CP - SPLXM wrote: > > > > >>From your choice of language, I assume you ended up in this > > group/forum > > >unintentionally, by opening our door i.s.o. your manhole > > cover. Be more > > >careful where you go next time. > > > > > >Jeeez. > > > > > >Kees. > > > > > > > > >"Nomen Nescio" <nob...@dizum.com> wrote in message > > >news:<b6bb8fd9ebc3690f1ea46493a7d4c...@dizum.com>... > > > > > > > > >>kees.verno...@klm.com (Vernooij, CP - SPLXM) wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>"Rick Fochtman" <rfocht...@ync.net> wrote in message > > >>>news:<4e8f8f91.1040...@ync.net>... > > >>> > > >>> > > >----------------------------------<snip>--------------------- > > ----------- > > > > > > > > >>>--- > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>>I have been looking at CMF vs. RMF as a question. > > >>>>> > > >>>>>Is there any pros or cons between the two? Any other products > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>besides CMF that competes with RMF on the mainframe? > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >--------------------------------<unsnip>--------------------- > > ----------- > > > > > > > > >>>--- > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>CMF is a wonderful product but it's very maintenance-sensitive, > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >not > > > > > > > > >>>only > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>for itself but for the rest of the system as well. It uses a > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >number of > > > > > > > > >>>>hooks that it places in z/OS code when it starts and removes > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >during > > > > > > > > >>>>shutdown. If there's a maintenance mis-match, you could be looking > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >at > > > > > > > > >>>a > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>system outage. BTDT GTSS. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>I NEVER expirienced this in all my life (which is about the time we > > >>> > > >>> > > >run > > > > > > > > >>>CMF). > > >>> > > >>> > > >>So what? Just because you didn't have a problem doesn't > > mean problems > > >> > > >> > > >don't > > > > > > > > >>exist. I'll bet what Rick says against anything you have to say. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>>My choice is to stick with RMF. The numbers aren't as detailed but > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >the > > > > > > > > >>>>risks are FAR lower. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>FUD! > > >>> > > >>> > > >>That's BMC all the way! Fire longtime employees and hire 10 > > dollar an > > >> > > >> > > >hour > > > > > > > > >>Mexicans, Indians and Russians. If you want support or a fix, you're > > >> > > >> > > >shit > > > > > > > > >>out of luck with BMC. 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