"I am quite sure that the 'password' error is caused by the fact that the
data set is SMS managed."

Was just curious to know why this "password error" Pops up for the SMS
managed Dataset whereas we have not protected the dataset with Password.

On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM <kees.verno...@klm.com
> wrote:

> I am not sure what you are trying to achieve. You are trying impossible
> things, but why?
>
> SMS managed datasets must be cataloged, so you cannot rename/recatalog
> it to a name that already exists.
> IDCAMS can also rename non-VSAM datasets.
> I am quite sure that the 'password' error is caused by the fact that the
> data set is SMS managed.
>
> Kees.
>
>
> "Jake anderson" <justmainfra...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:<cahtvvrwjiv8qvb2hcr159ayus+ycyce8o58gjkwrvfnatyu...@mail.gmail.com
> >...
>  > I am trying RENAME for NON-VSAM, but I used your Given JCL to rename
> with
> > existing name itself but it conflicts with Duplicate name(Obviously)
> Since
> > the NEWNAME do already do exist.
> >
> > But my clarification why IEHPROGM throws an error as "Correct Password
> not
> > available" whereas we have not protected the Dataset with Password ?
> >
> > Jakes
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
> <kees.verno...@klm.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > You are trying to rename a 2011 data set with a 1980's utility.
> > > You can do it with IDCAMS, this will take care of the data set on
> disk
> > > and the catalog info.
> > >
> > > //IDCAMS EXEC PGM=IDCAMS
> > > //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
> > > //SYSIN    DD *
> > >  ALTER BETTY.JCL.PDS NEWNAME(BETTY.JCL1.PDS)
> > > /*
> > >
> > > Watch the space in front of "ALTER".
> > >
> > > Will this solve your problem?
> > >
> > > Kees.
> > >
> > > "Jake anderson" <justmainfra...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > >
> news:<CAHTvvRXCvrwv_CSeHnw6nN=dhfwaqrw_mkpsvygse1vvu1t...@mail.gmail.com
> > > >...
> > >  > " Is the disk
> > > > SMS managed?"
> > > >
> > > > Yes - So is is it possible to take the existing name for renaming
> > > Purpose
> > > > using IEHPROGM ? But when I try renaming with a non-existent name
> then
> > > I am
> > > > able to do it whereas existing name produces this error message
> > > "Password
> > > > protected".
> > > > If I do a recatalog of existing name , then will it erase the Old
> > > content
> > > > of existing Dataset(NEWNAME as in JCL) ?
> > > >
> > > > Jakes
> > > > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
> > > <kees.verno...@klm.com
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > "Jake anderson" <justmainfra...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > >
> > >
> news:<cahtvvrw503n-daal98sqzcritzj4bhyxu-hsgpfdmxgqhsj...@mail.gmail.com
> > > > > >...
> > > > >  > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When I try to rename a dataset using a Utility IEHPROGM and I
> get
> > > a
> > > > > error
> > > > > > message like :
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Error :
> > > > > >
> > > > > > SYSTEM SUPPORT UTILITIES ----
> > > > > > IEHPROGM
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    RENAME DSNAME=BETTY.JCL.PDS,
> > > > > > X00027015
> > > > > >                NEWNAME=BETTY.JCL1.PDS,VOL=3390=KMCG03
> > > > > > 00028017
> > > > > >  IEH207I  STATUS OF USERS REQUEST TO RENAME DATA SET
> > > > > > BETTY.JCL.PDS
> > > > > >           VOLUME I.D.     ACTION TAKEN     REASON FOR TAKING
> THIS
> > > > > > ACTION
> > > > > >             KMCG03          NONE           CORRECT PASSWORD
> NOT
> > > > > > AVAILABLE
> > > > > > END OF LISTING OF DATA SETS TO BE SCRATCHED OR RENAMED  ...
> > > UNUSUAL
> > > > > > END
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > UTILITY
> > > > > > END
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My JCL :
> > > > > >
> > > > > > //BETTYU$ JOB TIME=(5,0),REGION=5M
> > > > > > //STEP1 EXEC PGM=IEHPROGM
> > > > > > //DD1 DD DSN=BETTY.JCL.PDS,DISP=SHR,VOL=SER=KMCG03,UNIT=3390
> > > > > > //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
> > > > > > //SYSIN DD *
> > > > > >    RENAME DSNAME=BETTY.JCL.PDS,
> > > X
> > > > > >                NEWNAME=BETTY.JCL1.PDS,VOL=3390=KMCG03
> > > > > > /*
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The above Error message Popped up due to Intended NEWNAME was
> > > already
> > > > > in
> > > > > > Use(Means Already catalogued). This I found when I tried
> Renaming
> > > via
> > > > > TSO
> > > > > > command "R".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am just confused why IEHPROGM utility is throwing a
> different
> > > > > message
> > > > > > for renaming whereas the TSO commands gives out a different
> > > message
> > > > > for
> > > > > > renaming.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What Macro is invoked when we try to Rename using TSO command
> "R"
> > > > > beside a
>  > > > > > dataset ? What is the difference between the two methodology ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Could anyone please enlighten me ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jakes
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The main difference between rename by TSO and by IEHPROGM is
> that
> > > TSO
> > > > > tries to recatalog the dataset (and discovers that the new name
> > > already
> > > > > exists), while IEHPROGM concentrates only on the VTOC of the
> disk.
> > > After
> > > > > renaming the dataset on disk, you will have to recatalog it
> > > yourself.
> > > > > While processing the dataset on disk, IEHPROGM sees that it is
> > > 'password
> > > > > protected' and you did not specify the 'correct password'. Is
> the
> > > disk
> > > > > SMS managed?
> > > > >
> > > > > Kees.
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