"No, we cannot get any trace not audit output out of XCFAS, maybe because it starts before TSS is started."
Kees, you can recreate the scenario at any time by stopping and starting BCPII: STOP HWIBCPII START HWISTART During the time that it is stopped, xcfas should give you the same msg, but with a reason of 'BCPII services not available'. Once you bring BCPII back up, xcfas will try again and give you the insufficient saf access message. Mary Anne ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html