George,
I have worked for 20+ shops consulting and full time, this one I referred to 
was European HQ.
Most of the other places systems staffs were 20+ , I worked most of those shops 
in NYC, numbers are small also, because of this economy, cutbacks.

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Scott Ford
Senior Systems Engineer
www.identityforge.com



On Feb 16, 2012, at 6:37 PM, George Henke <gahe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> ty, Scott, but 200 people must have supported many data centers.
> 
> The feedback I have gotten so far, based on a few private replies, is about
> 8 - 12 people per CEC.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Scott Ford <scott_j_f...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> George,
>> I worked for a large American company aboard, one of the top 5 in the
>> world, we has a staff including mgmt around 200, that was MVS , VM ,
>> Communications, and DR.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> Scott Ford
>> Senior Systems Engineer
>> www.identityforge.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 16, 2012, at 6:19 PM, George Henke <gahe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> That is not my intent.
>>> 
>>> Please do not divulge anything with which you do not feel comfortable.
>>> 
>>> "Where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise."  Thomas Gray
>>> 
>>> I am just trying to get a sense, a reasonability check, on how
>>> labor-intensive a large zSeries shop is.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Scott Ford <scott_j_f...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Yep Lizette, and how much money is in the budget ...
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> Scott Ford
>>>> Senior Systems Engineer
>>>> www.identityforge.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 16, 2012, at 5:21 PM, Lizette Koehler <stars...@mindspring.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am trying to find out how much staff, numbers and titles, eg z/OS,
>>>> z/VM,
>>>>>> VTAM/TCPIP, CICS, etc, are needed to run a large zSeries mainframe
>> shop.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Would some of you be so kind as to share that information with me.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> George Henke
>>>>>> (C) 845 401 5614
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> George the only answer I can give is - It Depends
>>>>> 
>>>>> What is the hardware layout, how many mips, SLAs, software mix,
>> external
>>>>> contacts (vendors, business partners), transmission types (NJE, MQ),
>> and
>>>> so
>>>>> on.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You can find titles like
>>>>> z/OS System programmer, z/OS System Administrator, Security officer,
>>>>> Application developers, Network Security, Network Administrators, and
>> so
>>>>> many more.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know of no concise list that would give you information for such a
>>>> broad
>>>>> question.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Could you narrow it down a bit?
>>>>> 
>>>>> What is your definition of LARGE.  From my vantage point, it is like
>>>> asking
>>>>> some one what is a tall person.  If you are 3ft tall, then 5ft is tall.
>>>> If
>>>>> you are 6ft tall, then 5ft is small.  All is relative.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lizette
>>>>> 
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