I think the critical question is How much development of new or significantly extended mainframe systems is going on?
Shops that have only low-maintenance, legacy-systems workloads tend to get smaller and smaller over time. On 2/22/12, Hal Merritt <hmerr...@jackhenry.com> wrote: > As others have posted, there are just too many variables to include the > nature of the workload and the management strategies. > > For example, a shop may not accept a job for production if it cannot be > managed by exception by the job scheduler. That way, a crew of four can > provide 7x24 coverage for thousands of jobs. If manual intervention is > allowed, then it might take a crew of 10 or 20 per shift. > > I do think it is safe to say that a MF shop -can- be much less labor > intensive than a comparable server farm. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf > Of George Henke > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 5:20 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: zSeries Manpower Sizing > > That is not my intent. > > Please do not divulge anything with which you do not feel comfortable. > > "Where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise." Thomas Gray > > I am just trying to get a sense, a reasonability check, on how > labor-intensive a large zSeries shop is. > > > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Scott Ford <scott_j_f...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Yep Lizette, and how much money is in the budget ... >> >> Sent from my iPad >> Scott Ford >> Senior Systems Engineer >> www.identityforge.com >> >> >> >> On Feb 16, 2012, at 5:21 PM, Lizette Koehler <stars...@mindspring.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> I am trying to find out how much staff, numbers and titles, eg >> >> z/OS, >> z/VM, >> >> VTAM/TCPIP, CICS, etc, are needed to run a large zSeries mainframe >> >> shop. >> >> >> >> Would some of you be so kind as to share that information with me. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> George Henke >> >> (C) 845 401 5614 >> >> >> > >> > George the only answer I can give is - It Depends >> > >> > What is the hardware layout, how many mips, SLAs, software mix, >> > external contacts (vendors, business partners), transmission types >> > (NJE, MQ), and >> so >> > on. >> > >> > You can find titles like >> > z/OS System programmer, z/OS System Administrator, Security officer, >> > Application developers, Network Security, Network Administrators, >> > and so many more. >> > >> > I know of no concise list that would give you information for such a >> broad >> > question. >> > >> > Could you narrow it down a bit? >> > >> > What is your definition of LARGE. From my vantage point, it is like >> asking >> > some one what is a tall person. If you are 3ft tall, then 5ft is tall. >> If >> > you are 6ft tall, then 5ft is small. All is relative. >> > >> > >> > Lizette >> > >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> > send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send >> email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> > > > > -- > George Henke > (C) 845 401 5614 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email > to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are > intended > exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The > message, > together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged > information. > Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or > distribution > is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please > immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
