Rex -

Good, only 100 volumes is easily manageable. I really can't answer to RMM as we 
use CA-1 where an IDCAMS operation doesn't matter. I agree that it would be 
prudent to test with 1 volume first. The delete for your library entry would be 
a DELETE LIBENT. The doc is all in the AMS manual.

Frank.

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Pommier, Rex R.
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 12:51 PM
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Subject: Re: manual tape library question

Frank,

This is exactly what I'm looking for.  The library that doesn't exist anymore 
only had 100 tapes in it.  I need to remove the tapes and library from OAM and 
from the TCDB.  I will need to leave the non-scratches in RMM because some of 
them have long retentions and I just need to keep track of the tapes 
themselves.  If we ever need to actually get anything off the physical tapes, 
we will be contracting with a third party.

I will try the IDCAMS DELETE VOLENT command against 1 of the scratch tapes to 
make sure it remains in RMM but gets removed from the TCDB before taking all of 
them out.  My biggest concern was that there was something else that I might 
mess up by simply deleting them from the TCDB.

I already have the SMS ACS routines modified to remove the library allocations 
from the system.

Thanks so much.

Rex

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Bonaduce, Frank
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 11:29 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: manual tape library question

Rex -

When you say 'remove the tapes' what is it you are attempting to do exactly. Is 
there a TMS consideration of any kind or are all these old volumes disposable ? 
 If they are, you can build a volume list to use as input to IDCAMS DELETE 
VOLENT to remove them from the TCDB. The library does not have to be available 
to do this and you can use the same approach to remove the LIBRARY entry. If 
they were under SMStape control, you may need to modify logic in your SMS ACS 
routines as well.

Frank.

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Pommier, Rex R.
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 12:17 PM
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Subject: Re: manual tape library question

Thanks for the response, but unfortunately that won't work.  The VOLCAT 
actually has 2 MTLs in it, one that is active and the one I can't get rid of.

Rex

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Neubert, Kevin
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 11:12 AM
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Subject: Re: manual tape library question

Don't have experience with an MTL, but regularly EXPORT DISCONNECT the TCDB 
(i.e., SYS1.VOLCAT.VGENERAL, etc.) when moving from systems with an ATL to no 
ATL.

Regards,

Kevin

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Pommier, Rex R.
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 8:28 AM
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Subject: manual tape library question

All,

We just moved our mainframe to an LPAR on a different mainframe with completely 
different hardware.  As part of the migration, I had to build a second manual 
tape library with different characteristics than the one I was using locally.  
My "old" library did not make the trip and now I need to remove the tapes and 
library from the configuration at the new site.  My question is how do I remove 
the tapes from the now non-existent tape library?

When I try to do a "library eject" command, I get an error saying the library 
cannot eject the tape:

IEFC165I // LI E,100097,P 462
CBR1202I EJECT rejected.  Library F1256 cannot eject volume 100095.
LI E,100097,P
CBR1920I E not scheduled.  Command scheduling error.

The response of CBR1202I is to bring the library back online and try again.  I 
can't do that because the library doesn't exist.

I can't move the tapes out of the MTL that doesn't exist either.

A last-ditch thought is to delete the entries out of the OAM tape catalog.  
Thoughts?  Suggestions?

Thanks.

Rex


BTW, does anybody want to buy a z9-bc or a ts3400 tape library?  :-)



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