Dave I understand the reason for IBM helping out with 3rd party costs , but now you have the situation that the IBM software costs are the biggest, who do we scare them with ?.
Regards Gerard -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Salt Sent: 12 April 2006 11:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe & Evil >From: "Chase, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Last upgrade in my small shop cost for just ISV software was > > $300,000 in just upgrade fees. I didn't need to change one piece of > > code. That's hard to defend. > >To put it bluntly, it's indefensible. > > -jc- > Gouging by ISV's is a large part of the reason why mainframes are seen by many as being uncompetitive. It has to stop. Fortunately, IBM has realized this and has started competing directly against some of the "offending" ISV's with products of its own. Witness for example the new line of IBM File Manager products, which generally cost a fraction of what it costs to license competing ISV products. Having said that, not all ISV's try to gouge their customers. I know of at least one ISV that charges a remarkably low flat rate for all of their software, regardless of size or speed of mainframe. Dave Salt ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Standard Bank Disclaimer and Confidentiality Note This e-mail, its attachments and any rights attaching hereto are, unless the context clearly indicates otherwise, the property of Standard Bank Group Limited and/or its subsidiaries ("the Group"). It is confidential, private and intended for the addressee only. Should you not be the addressee and receive this e-mail by mistake, kindly notify the sender, and delete this e-mail, immediately and do not disclose or use same in any manner whatsoever. Views and opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the sender unless clearly stated as those of the Group. The Group accepts no liability whatsoever for any loss or damages whatsoever and howsoever incurred, or suffered, resulting, or arising, from the use of this email or its attachments. The Group does not warrant the integrity of this e-mail nor that it is free of errors, viruses, interception or interference. Licensed divisions of the Standard Bank Group are authorised financial services providers in terms of the Financial Advisory and Intermediary Services Act, No 37 of 2002 (FAIS). For information about the Standard Bank Group Limited visit our website http://www.standardbank.co.za ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
