John,

I can relate to your Endevor problems... I worked with client to get this set up, and it just doesn't support HFS file systems well enough to be usable for Java source control. In the end, they decided to check in a distribution "tar" file into Endevor and then wrote JCL/scripts to allow Endevor to handle the deployment/promotions. The source is maintained in either CVS or PVCS and builds of the tar distributions were done via a Ant script on a Unix system, which was kicked off by a MVS job.

As far as development tools, I would encourage you to look at using the Eclipse IDE for z/OS Java development. We have put up some documentation and examples (from our SHARE presentations) on how to do this on our web sites:

http://jzos.com/docs/eclipseSetup.html
http://dovetail.com/downloads.html (see the "Batch XML Sample" project download)

With Eclipse setup properly, you can code/compile your Java in a fantastic (and free) IDE, and then use ANT to one-click deploy the code to z/OS via FTP.

Regards,
Kirk

McKown, John wrote:


Thanks. I already have a web site on our z/OS system. I have even
written a web based application to do our "standard" RACF stuff such as
creating a new userid, deleteing an existing id, resume an id, revoke an
id, etc. It uses REXX CGI programs.

I am looking at Java (JZOS) right now. Not too bad, but could use a
zAAP. But even presenting it to my team gets a yawn. "What good is it?"
There is an entire 'nother thread on this. I can imagine some really
NICE things if we did some CICS/Java for our XML and "web based" stuff.
Just plain no interest. And, to be honest, we cannot integrate it into
our current Endevor change environment (as best as I can tell). I am
only one person, with very poor sales skills. And I have not been able
to present a "fool proof" plan of how to implement any of this so that
it would be usable "out of the box" and completely integrated into our
current development methodology. I.e. develop Java using ISPF (in PDS
libraries), then submit batch jobs to compile it into yet another PDS.
Remember, no liking around here for UNIX stuff. Just to be honest, the
programmers have a point. They are swamped (as are most) just trying to
keep the boat afloat. They don't usually have time to do fancy
scrollwork on the stair rails while the boat sinks.


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