One other factor to consider is the level of expertise that your DBA and Developer community are. It depends on what role your systems programming staff plays in supporting the general IT community at the company. I know of places where two to many sysprogs are fully employed just in supporting other IT employees. That isn't all bad either, but like Ed previously said, "it depends". I would recommend very early in the planning to establish internal support relationships and service levels. You may even factor them into some sort of internal charge so that the heavy users/abusers :) pay for the extra staff. Often times this can be well worth the work too. It's very often that a well rounded systems programmer can quickly bring a problem to resolution simply because they speak more than one "tech language". This is becoming more and more often as off host developers are accessing big iron.
Ed Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED] AST.NET> To Sent by: IBM IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Mainframe cc Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject .EDU> Re: z/OS system programmer staffing 02/11/2008 03:37 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU> On Feb 11, 2008, at 11:25 AM, Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM wrote: > Can anyone point me in the direction of where to find a good (but > minimum) > estimate for staffing systems programmers (with various experience > levels) > to perform all functions of a systems programmer, including > installations of > OS and vendor software, applying maintenance, troubleshooting errors, > maintaining RACF, JES2, TCP/IP,CICS, Oracle, WLM, etc. on two z/OS > - z/OS.e, > two system sysplexes (not parallel) production system and test > system, along > with a z/VM OS/IFL used for LINUX instances. > > Thanks in advance for any help on coming up with this staffing number. > Mary Yukus > > ---- Mary: You have gotten several good answers. Let me through this item into the mix and you will still not have a good answer but will need to think more about any number. As always it "DEPENDS". If the installation has a fair amount of mods to the OS then increase the number of sysprogs. How many well it depends on the complexity of the mods and other things. A lot of installations modify JES2 (or JES3) the amount of mods could add one or two people to the MVS support side. If its a one or two line mod then probably a small number. I am guessing here but a lot of installations heavily (moderately?) modify JES3 then probably add 1 or 2 people. This an extremely rough estimate and the complexity of the mods means a lot as to any number you come up with. There are probably a lot few companies that modify MVS, but again it depends on the number and the complexity. It is probably safe to say that the number of companies making mods to MVS are small in number. If you count exits here don't count them as mods but say a .5 of a person. CICS (and IMS) same thing. I knew a place that *HEAVILY* modified CICS and they still can't run above the line. Like someone else said the number of CICS regions sort of dictates the number of CICS sysprogs. There are some installations that are just really complex and those need more others are not quite a complex. One place to look is to figure out how much OT the people are putting in. There are pitfalls in using this but its one place to start, don't use this as a final indication just factor it in. Ed ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html