Sorry, Chris, but availability/(god like function :) does not always equal use by or even perception of the need.
The truly greatest disappointment I have with "new age" developers is that they are now running into the same issues that people before me solved decades ago with mainframe development. And they are reinventing when they could do some research and learn from past experience. It has become far to easy to reinvent the wheel! > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Craddock, Chris > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 8:41 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: We're losing the battle > > Ted said > > >The change control for application development is probably better on > PC's > > > > This is so WRONG! > > > > I've worked with Change Control/QA for 27+ years. > > I have never seen a package in use by PFCSK's. > > It seems to be hit or miss. > > [<CLC>] Pardon? You've never seen CVS? Or any of its zillions of > commercial and open source offspring? I've built entire (mainframe!) > products using these tools on PCs. And it wasn't even a hard decision to > make. They're more flexible and easier to use than anything I've used on > TSO. CMS may have some secret sauce I am not aware of, but if you're > comparing tools on TSO with the PC, it is the mainframe ones that come > up short. Sorry. > > > I've worked with change control applications on the mainframe since > 1981 > > (PANVALET, then). > > > > I don't think it's platform dependent, but I have seen too many > managers > > let PC 'fixes' fly through on PC's, that they wouldn't let the > equivalent > > see the light of day on mainframes. > > [<CLC>] Let's stop bashing PCs here. Only a poor workman blames his > tools. Everyone here has seen ugly changes fly through the net with nary > a swat from the QA or change control process. > > CC > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
