> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clark Morris
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 2:00 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Example of what a very small JCL Interpreter can 
> do to your installation.
> 
> On 21 Jul 2008 11:32:07 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
> 
> >--------------------------------<snip>----------------------------
> >Unlikely today's programs which tend to crash quickly and often. Not 
> >mentioning any particular OS, but you can "see through" 
> that, can't you?
> >-------------------------------<unsnip>------------------------------
> >Bet your sweet "bippy"........... :-))
> >
> Given the user surly nature of some of the systems that I have seen
> and some of the interesting abend situations, I don't know that the
> mainframe platform is much better.  One of the main reasons that many
> using departments went to non-mainframe was the perceived lack of
> support and cooperation from "IT".  Getting problems fixed in some
> organizations was worse than dealing with Microsoft.   Having used
> PROFs and the CICS based replacement for e-mail, I find even Outlook
> far superior (I use Agent 4.x).  

I agree, in part. I tried to use DisplayWrite/370. <shudder>. But the
main problem, as usual, is management. The mainframe has been around a
long time. We have a lot of policies and procedures. Some of which are
good and necessary. Some of which make no sense (to me). At least around
here, in the past, the Windows environment could change quickly to
demands. Why? Because they were allowed to. There was little change
control. There was almost no review of what was going on. Now that
management here is implementing this, two things have happened: (1) the
"cowboys" has gone on to "greener pastures" where they are allowed to
"get work done, not fill out paper" and (2) change has slowed down to
almost mainframe-likeness.

--
John McKown
Senior Systems Programmer
HealthMarkets
Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage
Administrative Services Group
Information Technology

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