On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 15:25:57 -0600, Tom Marchant <m42tom-
ibmm...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>While I agree with you that auditors *should* only report compliance, that
>is certainly not always the case.
>
>I have been in environments where management was afraid to challenge the
>auditors.  As a result, the auditor's word was law.  
BTDT, GTTS.

>I have also been in environments where it was the auditors who made the 
>rules because no one else knew what the rules should be.  Of course, neither 
>did the auditors.
BT2, GTTS.

>I know that there others on this list who have had similar experiences.
Indeed.  Also been in shops where everyone but the auditors did the most / all 
of the auditors job for them, because the particular breed did not even know 
how to spell MVS (OS/390, z/OS, etc.).  How reliable is the audit when the 
department being audited collects all the evidents and presents to the auditor 
to prove compliance?  Maybe that's what got Satyam in trouble...

>Perhaps that's the subject of yet another survey.
Perhaps.

Art Gutowski
Ford Motor Company

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