Another problem with Peter Farley's formulation of this issue is his
use of the phrase "normally skilled professional application
programmer".  The question just what skills such a person should have
is controversial.  The question what skills they do in fact usually
have is less so.

A great figure in computing once observed that in his experience COBOL
applications programmers could be divided into two disjoint subsets.
There were those, he said, who did not know what binary search was;
and then there were those who did and were proud of it.

This of course is caricature.  I know applications programmers who are
good technicians.  But like all good caricature it exaggerates without
really misrepresenting.

John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA

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