OOPS, sorry. Meant to send that internally to others in my group. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT
Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of McKown, John > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 10:28 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of > Tennessee > > Doesn't mean much to us, really. But the post below says that the > government of Quebec installed Oracle on zLinux on a z9 (like ours) and > licensing savings in one year paid the cost of the z9. Of course, since > we are going to MS-only, this is meaningless to us. And Oracle is an > extreme example due to it being overpriced. > > -- > John McKown > Systems Engineer IV > IT > > Administrative Services Group > > HealthMarkets(r) > > 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 > (817) 255-3225 phone * > john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or > proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please > contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the > original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products > underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, > Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life > Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance > Company.SM > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > > On Behalf Of Mark Post > > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 10:24 AM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Re: Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. > of > > Tennessee > > > > >>> On 9/4/2012 at 10:07 AM, Bruno Sugliani <oldti...@wanadoo.fr> > > wrote: > > > Interesting > > > Could you provide real numbers ? > > > For example to start with : the price for Linux server license on > an > > IFL > > > and the one on a x86 server ? > > > > https://www.suse.com/products/systemz/how-to-buy/ > > https://www.suse.com/products/server/how-to-buy/ > > https://www.redhat.com/apps/store/server/ > > > > But that's not middleware, which is where far more significant costs > > come into play. Oracle, DB2, WebSphere are all licensed by the > number > > of processors in a system. Oracle charges slightly more for System z > > processors, but not much. See my reply to Richard Hintz for pointers > > to my presentation that has real dollars listed. > > > > For most shops, every production system has a fair number of > ancillary > > systems configured the same, or close to it: dev/test, QA, DR, > cluster > > failover, etc. A lot of people conveniently forget to count these > > systems, which must all be licensed as well, when doing TCO or TCA > > calculations. It doesn't take very many middleware licenses to pay > for > > a z10BC or z114. The government of Quebec bought a brand-new (at the > > time) z9 to run Oracle, and recovered the entire cost within 12 > months > > from licensing savings. > > > > > > Mark Post > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM- > MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
