I remember a lot of products were separate then bundled together. 
Nccf,NDM and npda for example then it became Netview, just product evolution.

Scott ford
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On Sep 24, 2012, at 9:29 AM, John Eells <ee...@us.ibm.com> wrote:

> Shmuel Metz , Seymour J. wrote:
>> There is a discussion inn the news group a,lt.folklore.computers as to
>> whether the term "MVS" includes TSO. Can anybody point to an explicit
>> statement from IBM? Thanks.
> 
> MVS might have at some point included TSO.  Perhaps sooner, but since MVS 
> Version 1 if I recall correctly, TSO and later TSO/E have been either:
> 
> a) Different products with separate product (order) numbers
> b) For TSO/E, an element of OS/390 or z/OS.
> 
> -- 
> John Eells
> z/OS Technical Marketing
> IBM Poughkeepsie
> ee...@us.ibm.com
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