My "spoof" email was apparently genuine. The person who sent it has no idea
how much he got wrong with the request.



On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 12:44 PM Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote:

> That's not reliable either, and there are many different ways of being
> flawed, some more serious than others. The model that you proposed is
> deeply flawed for anybody that doesn't have a closed set of correspondents
> using an identical security model.
>
>
> --
> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>
>
> ________________________________________
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> of CM Poncelet <ponce...@bcs.org.uk>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 9:10 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Caution: "Hacked" email caused the distribution of a
> potentially harmful attachment
>
> All software filters are fundamentally flawed, because they presume to
> recognize and 'understand' what is or not SPAM - which is logically
> impossible. The only reliable filter is the hardware one, which assumes
> by default that every received email is SPAM *unless* a message filter
> rule says it is legitimate. That is how ACF2 enforced security - by
> denying any access to a resource unless an ACF rule permitted it.
>
>
>
> On 22/09/2020 23:14, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> > The commercial filters are mostly broken in all sorts of fascinating
> ways. If it's an option your best choice is to find a provider competent to
> select or write decent filters.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on
> behalf of Charles Mills <charl...@mcn.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 5:25 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: Caution: "Hacked" email caused the distribution of a
> potentially harmful attachment
> >
> > The commercial e-mail malware filters watch for e-mail where the "from"
> address and the headers do not match.
> >
> > They did not used to. The *SPAM* filters watched for the mis-match, but
> not the malware filters. The notorious RSA hack began with a spear-phishing
> e-mail with an attachment of an Excel spreadsheet containing a zero-day
> exploit. RSA's SPAM filter caught it! However, two enterprising employees
> dragged the e-mail out of their SPAM folder and opened it and the attached
> spreadsheet.
> >
> > Ever since then the malware filter publishers have been watching for
> this mismatch and treating it as potential malware rather than merely
> potential SPAM.
> >
> > Charles
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> On Behalf Of CM Poncelet
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 2:05 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: Caution: "Hacked" email caused the distribution of a
> potentially harmful attachment
> >
> > Hence, check your trash/deleted folder and then create message filters
> > for any legitimate emails it contains, then run your message filters
> > against your trash/deleted folder to move the legitimate emails out of
> > there and into your "Inbox" folder or whatever other appropriate folders
> > - and these legitimate emails will then no longer be trapped as
> > spam/scam emails. What these 'not spam/scam' message filters should
> > contain and check for is up to you.
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