I don't agree. z/OS isn't the center of the universe anymore. Most sites run a stack such as Atlassian Jira, Bitbucket etc which are used by both z/OS and distributed development teams. The integrations are awesome. Being able to track a bug ticket to changed lines of code is gold dust. If you don't want to host Bitbucket you can run it in Altlassians cloud for as little as $100 a year depending on users. I understand that there are political issues between mainframe and distributed folks at a lot of sites but that's just BS which should be solved by strong leadership at the board level. Everybody needs to be tugging on the same rope!

I've successfully deployed Gitbucket on z/OS but I don't see the point when we have Bitbucket. We also run Jenkins, Ansible, Artifactory etc. I work for Rocket and you would be surprised by how many products that you use every day that are now resident in the z/OS UNIX file system and source controlled by Git. We do code reviews in Bitbucket and when we merge into master Jenkins kicks in to run regression tests, scan code for vulnerabilities, build ESCROW artifacts etc. If anything fails the merge is rejected. This is DevOps. It's not just some buzz word or fad, it's a useful methodology for project life-cycles. It's automation which used to take a resource to run manually.


On 6/08/2021 10:51 pm, kekronbekron wrote:
So z/OS datasets are still the source of truth, and just a copy is being made 
into GitHub for visibility from the outside.
I'm thinking of implementations that work the other way.
Running Git server on Z**, hooking it to GitHub UI / web service, use GitHub 
Actions or other release mechanisms to rollout directly into live Z datasets.
I mean live as in.. the way in which we normally do in Z. Just hooking GH into 
the usual current procedures/jobs/REXX in Z.

**Noticed that Github Enterprise Server, the thing where you run the GitHub 
Enterprise servers yourself in 'your' cloud, or on-prem on VMware or OpenStack 
(lol) KVM... can't actually run in Z.
That is, can it even run in Linux on Z, seeing that currently there's only 
OpenStack KVM flavour?
Z can run KVM instead of z/OS but who's going to setup KVM just for this.

- KB

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On Friday, August 6th, 2021 at 7:04 PM, Pew, Curtis G 
<curtis....@austin.utexas.edu> wrote:

On Aug 5, 2021, at 11:32 PM, kekronbekron 
000002dee3fcae33-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote:

I periodically copy over the current libraries and push the changes to GitHub.
Do you mean push to GitHub and then 'build/deploy/copy over the current 
(PARMLIB) libraries using some build workflow?
I have a script in my repository that runs commands like “rm sys1.parmlib/*; cp 
"//'sys1.parmlib'" sys1.parmlib” (where “sys1.parmlib” is a directory in the 
repository.) After running it I commit the changes and then push to GitHub.

It’s not perfect, but I can get some idea of when a change was made or find an 
older version of a member that isn’t working right.

Why is it not perfect, what would you want to work better?
“Perfect” would be if git could manage the actual PDS(E)s, but that seems like 
a lot to ask for.


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