Even on web pages, you have incredible complexity from the tools that
generate the web pages.  Almost as if they ignore the fact the html
was meant to be written by humans.

On Fri, Aug 6, 2021 at 9:38 AM kekronbekron
<000002dee3fcae33-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> Despite this existing, for a 'hot topic/area' like this, I'm sure big shops 
> will wait for official solutions from IBM/Broadcom/Rocket/etc.
>
> Honestly, z/OS is an absolute marvel and it kills me to see werido solutions 
> being built on top of z/OS, claiming to be the new interface to Z.
>
> Look at a few Ansible scripts for example... it's 100 times simpler to just 
> script a solution with JCLs, REXX, and what-not.
> Instead, we have this monstrosity called ported Python with ZOAU, and then 
> Ansible on top.
> YAML annoys me to no end. It's incredibly ridiculous to see a simple SMPE job 
> being wrapped in layers upon layers of what-the-hell just so 'new people' can 
> call it from Python and call it DevOps.
>
> Sorry, I don't mean to talk ill about people's work; it's just that it's hard 
> to see this happen knowing that IBM and the mainframe software folks are 
> capable of far more.
>
> - KB
>
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>
> On Friday, August 6th, 2021 at 7:18 PM, Lionel B. Dyck <lbd...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
> > If you check out ZIGI (the z/OS ISPF Git Interface) it has an option to 
> > support a 'Read Only' z/OS repository. This is a repository that is 
> > designed to manage z/OS datasets (PS, PDS, PDSE) in Git but with the 
> > restriction that updates to the z/OS datasets is prevented. It will 
> > identify updates to the z/OS datasets and then copy the updates into the 
> > OMVS Git repository for git management.
> >
> > Check it out at https://github.com/zigi
> >
> > Lionel B. Dyck <><
> >
> > Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com
> >
> > Github: https://github.com/lbdyck
> >
> > “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what 
> > you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On Behalf Of 
> > Pew, Curtis G
> >
> > Sent: Friday, August 6, 2021 8:35 AM
> >
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> >
> > Subject: Re: Rocket's Git and GitHub Enterprise
> >
> > On Aug 5, 2021, at 11:32 PM, kekronbekron 
> > 000002dee3fcae33-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote:
> >
> > > > I periodically copy over the current libraries and push the changes to 
> > > > GitHub.
> > >
> > > Do you mean push to GitHub and then 'build/deploy/copy over the current 
> > > (PARMLIB) libraries using some build workflow?
> >
> > I have a script in my repository that runs commands like “rm 
> > sys1.parmlib/*; cp "//'sys1.parmlib'" sys1.parmlib” (where “sys1.parmlib” 
> > is a directory in the repository.) After running it I commit the changes 
> > and then push to GitHub.
> >
> > > > It’s not perfect, but I can get some idea of when a change was made or 
> > > > find an older version of a member that isn’t working right.
> > > >
> > > > Why is it not perfect, what would you want to work better?
> >
> > “Perfect” would be if git could manage the actual PDS(E)s, but that seems 
> > like a lot to ask for.
> >
> >
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