Desk checking should still be required However, life is easier if you have 
decent tools, e.g., syntax directed editors, configuration control software.

Just because somebody hideously misuses Python doesn't make Python bad or 
useless.


--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

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I miss socializing in the line to use the keypunch.  Compiles were fill-in type 
work that involved operators reading in the card deck, so very controlled and 
very occasional.  Desk checking was required.
    Cliff McNeill

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Me too, but in the early 1980's.  I'd run the assembler from TSO READY
so I wouldn't have to wait for an initiator.  My way of programming was
always like starting with a ball of clay generally like what I wanted,
then adding the details as I went along.  That method means lots and
lots of compiles.  Then one day my supervisor dropped by my desk with a
blue-bar listing titled, "Top 10 TSO CPU Users" and I think I was on the
top.  Oops.

On 8/17/2021 11:35 PM, Mike Schwab wrote:
> Well, in the early 1990s, my system had 1-2 hour delays on compiles.
> So while waiting, I wrote a clist to do the same thing.  Allocate,
> error handling, and deallocate of a single file took about 30 lines,
> and a few iterations of debugging.  So, once I had one file allocate,
> I went through all the files, executed the program, and deallocated,
> and proceeded with the next two steps.  Got it working and would go
> get a new cup of coffee while it ran instead of having to wait.
>


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