I smiled as I read this thread because it brought back memories for me. 
 I was then at Sun Microsystems after the acquisition of STK. And one of the 
Solaris leads there explained to me that the reason the Mainframe was on its 
last legs was JCL.  I just looked at him and told him to talk to me when he got 
a clue. I for one never viewed JCL as hard or even highly ridged. Not only did 
it seem like it could win a Rube Goldberg for making something simple overly 
complex. After a good head shake I decided I am glad I can retire at any moment 
I wish. 

Carl Swanson

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Tom 
Brennan
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 1:18 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: even an old mainframer can do it

Me too, but in the early 1980's.  I'd run the assembler from TSO READY so I 
wouldn't have to wait for an initiator.  My way of programming was always like 
starting with a ball of clay generally like what I wanted, then adding the 
details as I went along.  That method means lots and lots of compiles.  Then 
one day my supervisor dropped by my desk with a blue-bar listing titled, "Top 
10 TSO CPU Users" and I think I was on the top.  Oops.

On 8/17/2021 11:35 PM, Mike Schwab wrote:
> Well, in the early 1990s, my system had 1-2 hour delays on compiles.
> So while waiting, I wrote a clist to do the same thing.  Allocate, 
> error handling, and deallocate of a single file took about 30 lines, 
> and a few iterations of debugging.  So, once I had one file allocate, 
> I went through all the files, executed the program, and deallocated, 
> and proceeded with the next two steps.  Got it working and would go 
> get a new cup of coffee while it ran instead of having to wait.
> 

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