I should not have picked on Java, but you may understand my irritation.

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On 10/21/2021 5:39 AM, Ron Wells wrote:
> Like reinventing a wheel and all they do is add complexity , as example 
> Java..another moving target, write something for it, change rel. BANG does 
> not work. Like Windows, if IBM did this, they would have been out of the Boz 
> decades ago.

We love Java on IBM Z and we have not experienced the incompatibility issues 
you're describing. We started back in 2013 on Java 6 and that same code is 
still working perfectly today under Java 8. We target Java
6 in the compile to ensure backward compatibility with the oldest Java 
available for the oldest z/OS operating systems supported by the oldest 
supported releases of our software products (at the moment that is z/OS 2.1). 
We find that approach easier than setting the target individually for every 
release, though that could be done if we needed some feature not available in 
Java 6.

Of course, it's always possible there could be changes required when z/OS Java 
11 finally gets released.. hopefully later this year. If we experience any 
incompatibilities, I will update this thread with our findings.

FWIW, we also have some old COBOL programs from an acquired product that needed 
some minor changes to allow them to compile under COBOL 6.x.

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