I should not have picked on Java, but you may understand my irritation. -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2021 8:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe Modernization
** EXTERNAL EMAIL - USE CAUTION ** On 10/21/2021 5:39 AM, Ron Wells wrote: > Like reinventing a wheel and all they do is add complexity , as example > Java..another moving target, write something for it, change rel. BANG does > not work. Like Windows, if IBM did this, they would have been out of the Boz > decades ago. We love Java on IBM Z and we have not experienced the incompatibility issues you're describing. We started back in 2013 on Java 6 and that same code is still working perfectly today under Java 8. We target Java 6 in the compile to ensure backward compatibility with the oldest Java available for the oldest z/OS operating systems supported by the oldest supported releases of our software products (at the moment that is z/OS 2.1). We find that approach easier than setting the target individually for every release, though that could be done if we needed some feature not available in Java 6. Of course, it's always possible there could be changes required when z/OS Java 11 finally gets released.. hopefully later this year. If we experience any incompatibilities, I will update this thread with our findings. FWIW, we also have some old COBOL programs from an acquired product that needed some minor changes to allow them to compile under COBOL 6.x. -- Phoenix Software International Edward E. Jaffe 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.phoenixsoftware.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7CRon.Wells%40OMF.COM%7C8bb7e681d66a4fc3c89108d994947a8a%7C57c0053cb5f84a1e8bb6e8afa09f3b82%7C0%7C0%7C637704187707350903%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=JchgLW%2BU4YCqaBYUqsyuo%2B8acOb00n3du8P9yUAnmdI%3D&reserved=0 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message, including any attachments, appended messages and the information contained therein, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient or have otherwise received this email message in error, any use, dissemination, distribution, review, storage or copying of this e-mail message and the information contained therein is strictly prohibited. If you are not an intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of this email message and do not otherwise utilize or retain this email message or any or all of the information contained therein. Although this email message and any attachments or appended messages are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by the sender for any loss or damage arising in any way from its opening or use. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Email Disclaimer This E-mail contains confidential information belonging to the sender, which may be legally privileged information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity addressed above. If you are not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of the E-mail or attached files is strictly prohibited. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN