On Fri, 29 Oct 2021 12:03:14 +1100, Robin Vowels wrote:

>We used to use RECFM=V in the 1960s with SYSIN
>for PL/I source programs on paper tape.
> 
What have we abandoned in the 20th Century?!

Where can he order one?  RPQ?

>On 2021-10-29 11:56, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 22:49:49 +0000, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>>
>>> What happens with
>>>
>>>    //INFILE   DD DISP=SHR,DSN=MY.VB.FILE
>>>    //         DD *,DCB=(RECFM=V,LRECL=204)
>>>
>>> and have you reported it as a bug, citing the text that you quoted?
>>>
>> I haven't RTFM today, but I believe it has long been a documented
>> restriction.
>> I've readily used:
>> o An Edit macro which does EXECIO to a DDNAME allocated with RECFM=VB
>> o FTP with "QUOTE SITE FILE=JES"; "QUOTE SITE JESRECFM=V"
>> o IEBGENER witn //SYSUT2 DD SYSOUT=(B,INITRDR)
>> o  Etc.
>>
>> Not a bug; WAD.  Merits an RFE.
>>
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From:Frank Swarbrick
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 5:11 PM
>>>
>>> I have a goal to concatenate a data set of variable length records
>>> (RECFM=VB,LRECL=204) with an instream data set of fixed length
>>> characters.  My though was to add RECFM=V to my instream DD, i.e.:
>>> //INFILE   DD DISP=SHR,DSN=MY.VB.FILE
>>> //         DD *,RECFM=V,LRECL=204
>>>
>>> The RECFM is rejected as being conflicting with a SYSIN dataset:
>>> IEFC009I KEYWORD RECFM IS MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE WITH KEYWORD SYSIN ON THE
>>> DD STATEMENT
>>>
>>> And yet the following section of the manual, "SYSIN data set" has
>>> discussion of SYSIN data sets where "the record format is variable":
>>> https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.5.0?topic=ssds-sysin-data-set
>>>
>>> But how do I actually make the SYSIN dataset variable length?
>>>
>>> I do realize there are probably other options to accomplish my task,
>>> but this is bugging me.
>>>
>> RFE.

-- gil

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