just went back and check - yup, June 30 2020 my wedding anniversary :)

Carmen

On 5/20/2022 10:38 AM, Tom Brennan wrote:
Last microcode update for z13s was June 30, 2020.
z14 dual frame coming up June 30, 2022 and ZR1 Sept 30, 2022

On 5/20/2022 8:29 AM, Carmen Vitullo wrote:
that would be nice - but now with z13 and z13s processors you cannot even get IBM to perform any hardware changes since those boxes are EOS....I think last June ?

we were somewhat lucky the processors are already IN THE BOX so an MES of our Z13s was done in May before the EOS date to add a second zIIP processor


Carmen


On 5/20/2022 10:21 AM, Tom Brennan wrote:
Of course a free zIIP would be the best solution.  But that's a decision to be made by sales people, while running z/OSMF remotely would be work (and maybe even a fun project) for a programmer. Now... which group would more likely say yes?  In my experience, don't even bother trying to get something for free from someone in sales :)

On 5/20/2022 6:14 AM, Pommier, Rex wrote:
One would think that since IBM is forcing everybody to use z/OSMF they would accommodate their own customers and not force their smallest ones into expensive upgrades just to run this software.  As Seymour mentioned, since zIIPs and the like are all normal processors, IBM should be able to build a bit of microcode to use an unlicensed engine to run z/OSMF.

Rex

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Since z/OSMF is written in java, then why can't that high-CPU work run on another platform such as Power or x86, and then communicate with the mainframe for the z/OS work (i.e. submit jobs or whatever it does to run the actual installation).  Or am I thinking too far out of the box?

On 5/19/2022 6:15 PM, David Crayford wrote:
On 20/5/22 08:23, Andrew Rowley wrote:

Having a zIIP gives you plenty of horsepower for z/OSMF, and having
an IBM z15 gives you System Recovery Boost which gives you…plenty of
horsepower for z/OSMF at least during the first 60 minutes. (It’s
the z/OSMF startup that can take a long time on a low capacity
configuration.

I wouldn't be surprised if once people start using z/OSMF, it's not
just the startup that is slow on a small system. Maybe IBM should
give everyone one zIIP with their z/OS 2.5 license... it might even
be a useful stimulus for smaller z/OS sites.


100% agree. The z/EDC ASIC is now free and on-die on the new hardware.
IBM should do the same with at least 1 zIIP.


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