Agreed that IBM won't give away full zIIP processors. However I don't see it as a stretch for IBM to allow z/OSMF java work to run on an unlicensed processor. We haven't started down the z/OSMF path yet so I don't really know what part of z/OS configuration runs under z/OSMF and what part is still classic batch processing etc. I'm assuming (yeah I know where assuming will get me) z/OSMF is dealing with the display and data entry of configuration but much of the work is still done by jobs submitted out of z/OSMF into traditional workloads.
Rex -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Tom Brennan Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 10:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Mark your calendars for July 10, 2022 - CustomPac intended removal date Of course a free zIIP would be the best solution. But that's a decision to be made by sales people, while running z/OSMF remotely would be work (and maybe even a fun project) for a programmer. Now... which group would more likely say yes? In my experience, don't even bother trying to get something for free from someone in sales :) On 5/20/2022 6:14 AM, Pommier, Rex wrote: > One would think that since IBM is forcing everybody to use z/OSMF they would > accommodate their own customers and not force their smallest ones into > expensive upgrades just to run this software. As Seymour mentioned, since > zIIPs and the like are all normal processors, IBM should be able to build a > bit of microcode to use an unlicensed engine to run z/OSMF. > > Rex > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On > Behalf Of Tom Brennan > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2022 9:04 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Mark your calendars for July 10, 2022 - > CustomPac intended removal date > > Since z/OSMF is written in java, then why can't that high-CPU work run on > another platform such as Power or x86, and then communicate with the > mainframe for the z/OS work (i.e. submit jobs or whatever it does to run the > actual installation). Or am I thinking too far out of the box? > > On 5/19/2022 6:15 PM, David Crayford wrote: >> On 20/5/22 08:23, Andrew Rowley wrote: >>> >>>> Having a zIIP gives you plenty of horsepower for z/OSMF, and having >>>> an IBM z15 gives you System Recovery Boost which gives you…plenty >>>> of horsepower for z/OSMF at least during the first 60 minutes. >>>> (It’s the z/OSMF startup that can take a long time on a low >>>> capacity configuration. >>> >>> I wouldn't be surprised if once people start using z/OSMF, it's not >>> just the startup that is slow on a small system. Maybe IBM should >>> give everyone one zIIP with their z/OS 2.5 license... it might even >>> be a useful stimulus for smaller z/OS sites. >> >> >> 100% agree. The z/EDC ASIC is now free and on-die on the new hardware. >> IBM should do the same with at least 1 zIIP. >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO >> IBM-MAIN . >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > The information contained in this message is confidential, protected from > disclosure and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is > not the intended recipient or an employee or agent responsible for delivering > this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > disclosure, distribution, copying, or any action taken or action omitted in > reliance on it, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have > received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by > replying to this message and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in > electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The information contained in this message is confidential, protected from disclosure and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, distribution, copying, or any action taken or action omitted in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
