I opened an idea on the IBM Idea Portal for this and it was accepted as a 
"Future Consideration." For anyone who wants to vote for it, it's ZOS-I-3641.

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------- Original Message -------
On Saturday, April 8th, 2023 at 8:09 AM, Steve Horein <steve.hor...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


> FWIW, I will likely create some "Extended Status" pseudo messages UP_JES3
> (NetView is UP, JES3 just reached UP status) and ISUP_JES3 (NetView
> restarted, JES3 was already UP) to issue the desired command once per life
> of NetView opposed to the "every night at 22:00" approach currently in
> place.
> 
> https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/z-system-automation/4.3.0?topic=messages-pseudo-invoke-extended-status-commands
> 
> 
> "Don't change what ain't broke... is a great way to stand still."
> 
> On Fri, Apr 7, 2023 at 5:54 PM Mark Jacobs <
> 00000224d287a4b1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> 
> > I'll try all that on our sandbox system. Thanks all.
> > 
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> > ------- Original Message -------
> > On Friday, April 7th, 2023 at 5:21 PM, Steve Horein <
> > steve.hor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > I meant to include that I didn't find the doc very clear relating to:
> > > $T REQJOBID,JESLOG=SUPPRESS
> > > 
> > > Is "Jobid" the JES2 number, or can it be a name, or is it literal and
> > > touch
> > > "all" jobs?
> > > 
> > > On Fri, Apr 7, 2023 at 4:18 PM Steve Horein steve.hor...@gmail.com
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Okay, I logged onto to work to see what was happening.
> > > > 
> > > > JES3 shop. Every night at 22:00, the following command is issued:
> > > > *F J=NETVIEW,NOLOG,N=ALL
> > > > 
> > > > I don't know if this is an equivalent command for JES2 (
> > 
> > https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.4.0?topic=section-t-reqjobid-set-jobid-attributes
> > 
> > > > ):
> > > > $T REQJOBID,JESLOG=SUPPRESS
> > > > or maybe (
> > 
> > https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.4.0?topic=crs-t-job-change-jobs-class-scheduling-priority-affinity
> > 
> > > > ):
> > > > $T J,NETVIEW,SPIN
> > > > 
> > > > On Fri, Apr 7, 2023 at 1:21 PM Mark Jacobs <
> > > > 00000224d287a4b1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > I just tried that. No difference in what I'm observing in JESMSGLG.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Mark Jacobs
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> > > > > ------- Original Message -------
> > > > > On Friday, April 7th, 2023 at 2:13 PM, Steve Horein <
> > > > > steve.hor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > We do START NETVIEW,SUB=MSTR,MSGLEVEL=(0,0) for NetView.
> > > > > > I have not tried omitting the MSGLEVEL parameter to see if it
> > > > > > really
> > > > > > makes
> > > > > > a difference or not.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Fri, Apr 7, 2023 at 1:01 PM Mark Jacobs <
> > > > > > 00000224d287a4b1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The problem is with our Netview STCs. They execute under MSTR
> > > > > > > and on
> > > > > > > our
> > > > > > > GDPS systems can stay up for months and months at a time. Their
> > > > > > > JESMSGLG
> > > > > > > can grow to several million lines which consumes a
> > > > > > > non-insignificant
> > > > > > > amount
> > > > > > > of spool space. I was hoping to add JESLOG=SUPPRESS to its job
> > > > > > > card to
> > > > > > > suppress this unneeded data. It didn't work. I opened an idea on
> > > > > > > IBM's idea
> > > > > > > portal for future support.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Mark Jacobs
> > > > > > > 
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> > > > > > > ------- Original Message -------
> > > > > > > On Friday, April 7th, 2023 at 1:50 PM, Steve Thompson
> > > > > > > ste...@wkyr.net
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I think it depends on the started task first issuing a Request
> > > > > > > > JOB ID CALL to JES. Then you get minimal JES support. At that
> > > > > > > > point the JOBLOG= may possibly have meaning. Take this with
> > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > salt, because I haven't done this level of programming for many
> > > > > > > > years and do not currently have the ability to try this on the
> > > > > > > > system I am using.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Otherwise I think you have to then issue the equivalent call to
> > > > > > > > JES for this.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Steve Thompson
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On 4/7/2023 1:18 PM, Mark Jacobs wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > This might be a silly question, but does the JESLOG
> > > > > > > > > parameter on
> > > > > > > > > a job
> > > > > > > > > card do anything when a started job executes under the master
> > > > > > > > > subsystem
> > > > > > > > > rather than under JES2?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Mark Jacobs
> > > > > > > > > 
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