IBM has their IPL CPU boost function.  Maybe they could somehow flag zOSMF to 
speed up the processor while it's running so as to not kill the small machine?  

Rex

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of 
Brian Westerman
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2023 11:46 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OSMF

After a couple years of use, I feel I'm pretty safe saying that, to me, z/OSMF 
appears to be a poorly designed and very badly programmed product.  Most 
vendors would have ditched the product and stopped promoting it by now, but IBM 
probably has grand "plans" that won't really come into fruition until sometime 
around 2030 for z/OSMF.  

As you all know, the z/OSMF product is the ONLY way to install z/OS, (without 
using COS), and the product doesn't even run in a usable way on their smallest, 
(but still supported and sold) processors.  So some poor site that buys into a 
z/15 T02 or z/16 A01 with a single CPU can barely even get the product up let 
alone have more than one user, and even that user (the systems programmer doing 
the install) has abysmal response time.  

I have pointed the problem out to IBM (multiple times), and have gone through 
the entire process of "proving" the issue(s) several times showing the issues 
in detail, only to be pointed to a manual that states that you "should" have a 
minimum of a 400MIP processor complex to use z/OSMF, (because that's what they 
use(d) for testing). 

The next problem I already see happening is that they are throwing a bunch of 
new "features" and add-ons into it, and some of them would be great products on 
their own, but are being hobbled by the (IMO) poorly designed product.  

I still can't believe that the same company that proudly states that we can 
still run code developed in the 1960's on the z/16 seems to care less about the 
fact that their installation vehicle doesn't support their own small end 
processors that you need the z/OSMF installation vehicle to install the OS 
with.  Any other vendor would be laughed out of town.  

One of the sites we support (a z13s, no zIIP, single CPU) can't even install 
the updates from Broadcom via the "normal" method because using the Java 
interface times out before authentication.  The solution from Broadcom (until 
IBM can fix their issue) is that they build a special delivery package for the 
site to use.  That's just sad, and what was IBM's response after 7 months of 
"looking into" the problem?  "The site could use a faster processor or the 
vendor should increase the authentication time limit."  Neither of those is a 
possible solution in this case.  

Very sad and poorly played on IBM's part.  

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