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Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, September 4, 2023, 4:26 PM, g...@gabegold.com <g...@gabegold.com> wrote: Not that it matters -- or that I rely on it for credentials/credibility -- but I do, B.S. in Applied Mathematics. Wrong again, you are. About so much. My point is that many excellent programmers (system and application) don't have degrees - and are no less excellent for that omission. And besides you I can't think of another working programmer who trumpeted their supposed credentials vs. real-world on-the-job accomplishments. What in the world does having a degree have to do with whether assembler language is a valuable/useful skill? Even for low-level grunt work such as yours, installing z/OS, how does your degree in Math/CS help? You've wandered far afield from the actual topic -- your misunderstanding that the essence of system programming isn't installing things. On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 20:12:41 +0000, Bill Johnson <mellonb...@yahoo.com> wrote: >No doubt you don’t have one. > > >Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > >On Monday, September 4, 2023, 4:11 PM, g...@gabegold.com <g...@gabegold.com> >wrote: > >That's correctly spelled z/OS. Even beginning system programmers should know >that. > >Degrees are often most relevant to people who rely on them for credibility, >vs. having actual qualifications and experience. > >"Unless you work for IBM, you’re likely an installer of zOS" shows profound >ignorance of what system programming actually entails: making effective >business-related use of what IBM and other vendors provide. Not just >installing -- that's a poor excuse for what system programming has been for >decades. It's too bad that in your decades of IT work at those dozens of jobs >(so many, such short tenures?) you never encountered the real thing. > >Your attitude towards a skill you don't posses is fascinating. Seems a lot >like sour grapes: > >refers to an attitude in which someone adopts a negative attitude to something >because they cannot have it themselves. > >Have you felt inadequate seeing assembler code you couldn't understand on the >list? > >Perhaps cheer yourself up by reading some comfortable JCL, or utility control >statements. And set some nice variables to feel better. > >On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 00:06:16 +0000, Bill Johnson <mellonb...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>Degrees are never relevant to the non-degreed. Unless you work for IBM, >>you’re likely an installer of zOS. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
