There you go again, lying about what people believe. If you're referring to people who chose to plonk you, your right to speak does not confer an obligation to listen. They don't believe that they run the list, but they rightly believe that they run their own property.
________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of Bill Johnson <00000047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2023 12:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program. In fact I’m not. Because I only respond to attacks from the TT. Many here actually fear the TT. (Terrible Twenty) The TT thinks they run the list. They don’t. Like I’ve said a number of times, there are very few experts here. I’m not one. If you have an SMP/E question, you probably have a 60-70% chance of getting the correct answer from the TT. Whereas you’ve got 99.9% chance with Kurt Quackenbush. You probably have a 60% chance of getting the correct answer for z/OS internals from the TT & 99.9% from Mr. Relson. Knowing who to trust 100% and who to fact check with the experts is probably the most important thing here. I know if I want hardware numbers from the 60’s & 70’s, you’re the man. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, September 6, 2023, 11:47 AM, Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote: > Putting down other people in this profession is the MO of guys like the > terrible twenty. I hope that you are including yourself in that. ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of Bill Johnson <00000047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2023 9:09 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program. Assembler is of little value and declining every year for most Installers/Systems Programmers not a part of ISVs. Which is the vast majority. Putting down other people in this profession is the MO of guys like the terrible twenty. Who claim that if you don’t know or use assembler, you’re just an “Installer” and a second rate Systems Programmer. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, September 6, 2023, 9:03 AM, Bernd Oppolzer <bernd.oppol...@t-online.de> wrote: What you are quoting (1., 2., 3.) are facts ... of course true, and nothing to dispute about. But your conclusions are wrong ... Assembler is of value anyway; Ray Mullins DID say that. For example for studying the outcome of translators and for performance analysis etc. IMO knowledge of Assembler is NEEDED, once you want to dig a little deeper into machine architecture and other related topics. The Assembler language opens the door for the understanding of registers, storage, addressing schemes, operation formats and so on ... that is: the hardware. IMO, you always seem to be forced to put down other people and their skills; I don't understand why. But what scares me most is that your constant use of words like "dinosaurs" and "narcissists" (and "idiots", BTW) in this discussions. And that's why I will not answer to any more mails from you from now on. Should have done so earlier, maybe. Bernd Am 06.09.2023 um 14:11 schrieb Bill Johnson: > Everything I said about assembler has rung true. > > 1. The assembler listserv is nearly dead. > 2. One of assemblers experts, Ray Mullins, stated unequivocally its market is > getting smaller and smaller and is a niche product. > 3. Bernd said since 2005, there’s been little demand for assembler training. > > ... > > And the dinosaurs here trying so hard to not become extinct. > Notice how the 20-30 experts can’t say, Bill Johnson is right. Because it > makes them wrong and narcissists don’t like saying they were wrong. > > ... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
