The cited OS/VS2 PLM is for release 3.7;  It's backlevel for the MVS turnkey 
system, but I don't know of an online repository that has the 3.8 version with 
SU updates. Similarly, the cited OS/360 MVT PLM is for R17, way back-level for 
the 21,8 turnkey system, and I don' know of a more recent online copy.

Is there anybody in the DC metropolitan area willing to scan and OCR a bunch of 
manuals for bitsavers? I have dead trees that are not on their site.

0C4 is a system ABEND code that can occur as the result of, e,g., program 
interrupt codes 04, 10, 11; there is no program interrupt code 0C4.

--
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Subject: Re: Registers in the RB

Seymour thanks

This Manuel is from from 1987 ?

Micheal was 1976

Is this still valid ?

I’ll read it in really not looking for easy way out

Peter R said he answered in this general thread

I did look back before posting

The only thing I noticed was in the case of an abend for example 0F8 the type 
of abend issued by the SVC FLIH the registers are in the next RB or ABend SVCRB

I thought in the case of a program check I.E. S0C1,4 etc it would be by that I 
mean the registers and PSW in the PRB that represented that unit of work

This program that abended was initiated by synch SVC 12 but I wasn’t looking at 
the SVRB but the PRB

Thanks

> On Feb 4, 2024, at 10:14 AM, Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote:
>
> The processing for SYNCH is the same whether it is  issued from a PRB or an 
> SVRB; the caller's PSW goes into the old RB and the caller's general 
> registers go into the new PRB.
>
> <http://wwww.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/370/MVS_XA/LY28-1765-0_MVS_XA_Version_2_Release_2.0_System_Logic_Library_Supervisor_Control_Jun1987.pdf>
>  is newer.
>
> Sometimes they get better.
>
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> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
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> Michael Stein <m...@zlvfc.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2024 4:06 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Registers in the RB
>
>> On Sat, Feb 03, 2024 at 08:20:08PM -0500, Joseph Reichman wrote:
>> It was my understanding probably erroneously that when a RB I guess I am
>> talking about a PRB gets interrupted and that can happen in one of  two
>> instances
>>
>> 1)    An SVC
>> 2)    A Program check e.g. S0C1,4,
>
> There are many interrupts possible: External, I/O, Program, SVC plus a few
> others.  Also including software caused like asynchronous exit routines.
>
> The bottom level of the system has to deal with these and one of it's
> main concerns is where to save the state of whatever was running when
> the interrupt happened.
>
> Since there are multiple CPUs and many many tasks & SRBs etc, it's
> important that the state information (PSW & registers) are only saved
> in areas others won't use at the same time otherwise they would get
> overlay by another interrupt or processor leading to disaster.
>
> While the OS interrupt routines have processor related storage they can
> only use this during the time they are disabled.  If they are going to
> return to the interrupted work then they can restore them and return,
> otherwise they must move/save the state elsewhere before they enable.
>
> For an OS task the registers and PSW are saved in task related control
> blocks, a combination of the TCB and RBs.
>
> The SVC interrupt handler save state depending on the type of SVC:
>
> type 1: (required to hold local lock, so can use areas address space related))
>        registers -> TCBGRS (?)
>        PSW -> some address space related area (?)
>
> type 2,3,4: (doesn't require holding local lock so can't use address space
>             related area)
>        . SVC caller's PSW & interupt code in top RB on TCB RB chain
>        . gets SVRB, puts SVC issuer registers into this SVRB
>          and addes it to the top of the TCB RB chain
>   so:
>        . SVRB register contain the SVC issuer's registers
>        . SVRB PSW is the SVC routines PSW
>        . TCBGRS is the SVC routines registers
>
> Keep in mind that a type 2,3,4 SVC can issue another SVC (which will
> if type 2,3,4 add another SVRB).  Or it might issue the SYNCH SVC
> resulting in an RB being added to the RB chain (holding the SVC issuing
> SYNCH's PSW.  Where the SVCs routine registers go I don't know.
> Perhaps SYNCH with restore=yes is newer?
>
> Also IRBs for asynchronous exit routines can be added to the RB chain.
> In this case the interrupted registers will be in the IRB register save
> area and the interrupted PSW will be in what was the top RB before the
> IRB was added.
>
> I don't know if IBM makes available current logic manuals but old ones
> exist like:
>
> https://archive.org/details/bitsavers_ibm370OSVSystemLogicLibraryVol4Rel3.7Jul76_23459458
>
> It's not clear how much change has happened since then, but some of the
> basic concepts likely haven't changed all that much.  Look up how the
> SVC interrupt handler works...
>
> Or an yet older manual for MVT, no SRBs just tasks, usually only one CPU,
> but similar TCB/RB structures:
>
> https://ia903101.us.archive.org/20/items/bitsavers_ibm360osR1TSupervisorRel17ProgramLogicNov1968_55700209/Y28-6659-3_MVT_Supervisor_Rel_17_Program_Logic_Nov1968.pdf
>
> PS: Do the manuals get worse the newer they are?
>
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