Hi all, It can be quite a challenge to find the information you need. It can be quite a challenge to find the manual you need. It can be quite daunting to make sense of the specific American English vocabulary and the host of abbreviations. Especially when it's not your native language...
When you're new to the field, it's quite a challenge to connect all the dots. And some employers simply take on a contract and dump all the issues onto the unlucky employees who happen to be there at the time. Don't blame the victim who got an assignment and a deadline without proper training or instruction. Consider to admire these unhappy folks for there persistence in trying to solve a problem that is beyond their current capacity (and probably pay grade as well). Kind regards & happy programming! Abe === On 15/10/2025 10:35, Martin Packer wrote: > I'm gentler on the "you could've got that from the manual" thing. > > Cheers, Martin > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of > Brian Westerman <[email protected]> > Date: Wednesday, 15 October 2025 at 05:56 > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Political topics > > I agree, although I think that there are some on the list that are acting as > systems programmers and ask a lot of questions that seem to point to them > seemingly not knowing what they are doing. In some cases I have to wonder if > helping them is actually helping or maybe just keeping someone from getting a > job that can do that work. I believe that we need to help people to learn, > and I try to do that when possible, but I have to wonder about the expertise > level that we are dealing with sometimes. > > Just my feeling, but maybe there needs to be some limits on asking questions > that can be easily answered by looking in the manual. > > Plus the semi-constant political stuff really does suck eggs. For some > reason it tends to bring out the grumpiness in a lot of people. > > Brian > > On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 02:53:54 +0000, Doug Fuerst <[email protected]> wrote: > >> YAY!! >> >> Doug Fuerst >> >> >> >> ------ Original Message ------ > >From "Darren Evans-Young" <[email protected]> >> To [email protected] >> Date 10/14/2025 22:11:35 PM >> Subject Political topics >> >>> Please stop with the political discussions!!! I'm tired of it. This is not >>> the forum for it. >>> I'm going to start setting people to REVIEW. >>> >>> Darren >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > Unless otherwise stated above: > > IBM United Kingdom Limited > Registered in England and Wales with number 741598 > Registered office: Building C, IBM Hursley Office, Hursley Park Road, > Winchester, Hampshire SO21 2JN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
