National Systems Programmers Association (NaSPA)
Doug Fuerst
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From "Steve Thompson" <[email protected]>
To [email protected]
Date 2/6/2026 11:30:35 AM
Subject Re: [EXTERNAL] mainframe skills - was cross posted
Yeah but we rejected that when the state of NJ decided that systems programmers
should fall under Cosmetology, while about the same period Texas was pursuing
those claiming to be engineers that had not been granted such a legal title.
This involved IBM who had CEs (Customer Engineers), and the like.
NaSPA (National association of Systems programmers- can't remember what the "A"
stood for) was alive at that time, as was an informal group of computer
contractors/consultants.
No, I'm not kidding, I didn't make it up. Scott Sherer was the Pres of NaSPA and he
retired and Radi Shurbaji (I think that was how he spelled it -- we worked at Boole
& Babbage about the same time) manged to become the president and it then tried
to be all things to all people and it collapsed. (Mainframe, Windows, networking,
etc. etc.)
RMPCP continued as a group (contractor/consultants) until Robert M. Pritchett
died. Sigh.
On 2/6/2026 11:02 AM, Charles Mills wrote:
The traditional solution to this problem is a trade union.
Just sayin'
Charles
On 2/5/2026 6:01 PM, Steve Beaver wrote:
Tom. My point is if we all push back to
the Indian recruiters for a sold month the point will get made. Most recruiters
constantly call even if you are working you push back and help the community at
large
Sent from my iPhone
No one said I could type with one thumb
On Feb 5, 2026, at 18:52, Tom Brennan<[email protected]> wrote:
Ok, I need a job to eat, but instead of eating at $60 an hour I'll hold out
for $120. The BMI chart says I'm just a smidge into the overweight category,
so I should be ok for a couple of weeks.
On 2/5/2026 11:09 AM, Steve Beaver wrote:
If we ALL push back all at the same time recruiters and companies will get the
point
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