Assuming that IPCS is available to the application staff.  In some shops it is 
not generally available, but reserved for the systems staff.  And there is the 
issue of training in the product, which isn't always available either (outside 
of reading the FM's).

Personally I have no problem using SYSUDUMP, but these days I most frequently 
use an interactive debugger to solve application errors.

Not all production application dump analyzers are created equal.  I haven't had 
the privilege of using recent versions of ABEND-AID, but I can personally vouch 
for the effectiveness of Macro4's Dumpmaster product.  I have found that LE 
dumps are somewhat less than useful when interrupted or circumvented by the 
locally installed dump analyzer and/or poorly chosen installation defaults.

In my experience, lack of training and training updates is the most frequent 
root cause of loss of knowledge of "how to debug this simple issue".

Peter

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 9:46 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Question on how to debug S0C7 (data exception) abend

In
<caajsdjjn4zk-csejvp4exf4ctxc5dnv6cfr5a19pnovvvgq...@mail.gmail.com>,
on 07/03/2013
   at 07:16 AM, John McKown <john.archie.mck...@gmail.com> said:

>Being old, I have occasionally turned off LE's abend handling and
>just "gone for the throat" using a recent compile (with generated
>assembler shown) and a SYSUDUMP.

SYSMDUMP, TYVM.

>The programmers have forgotten how to do this entirely. 

Some things are best forgotten. IPCS isn't perfect, but it's better
than highlighters and paper clips, or the electronic equivalent.

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