Since forever. What I'm saying is so simple that I must have misspoken. I'm saying that the earliest messages that appear on the IPL console also appear in syslog. These messages, issued long before JES starts--including the start of JES itself--are captured and eventually written to the syslog data set viewable in SDSF. It just works. Example from a recent IPL:
14:49:42.51 SYSLOG 00000000 IEE042I SYSTEM LOG DATA SET INITIALIZED 14:47:46.12 00000290 IEA630I OPERATOR *OPLOGB1 NOW ACTIVE, SYSTEM=B 14:47:46.13 INTERNAL 00000290 CONTROL M,UEXIT=Y IEAVN701 - INTERNALLY ISSUED K 14:46:12.33 00000210 IEA371I SYS1.IPLPARM ON DEVICE B031 SELECTED FOR ... In this IPL, the earliest IPL message (IEA371I) is time-stamped before IEE042I. The same is not true of operlog. In our DR environment, operlog for the first system in a sysplex is delayed until a job rebuilds the log stream. No earlier messages appear in operlog. OTOH in the example above, operlog starts right away because his log stream already exists. . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 9:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Vary OPEERLOG offline before IPLing the system? In <bn1pr0101mb07546706ca5f178b84197399ce...@bn1pr0101mb0754.prod.exchangelabs.com>, on 02/10/2015 at 06:43 PM, J O Skip Robinson <jo.skip.robin...@sce.com> said: >There is surely no advantage to varying OPERLOG off at shutdown. >However, we should note that syslog also captures early messages from >NIP onwards Since when? Are you thinking of MTRACE, which is not SYSLOG? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see <http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN