>Hopefully Mainframe Companies should perform a strict due diligence>before >choosing the offshore partners. The interview should not only happen>to >Technicians but to the managers level This is a nice thought which can do justice to the people working on both the sides . ie , "outsourced" as well as "outsourcing" companies . This way , the work goes only to deserving hands which of course improves the support quality . Again the amount of work getting outsourced would come down drastically if Mainframe companies start choosing offshore partners based on skill . Interviews should happen at manager level so the practice of illiterate guys managing technical teams would stop . But then , how many companies are willing to do this ? Robert Hahne
> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 15:22:37 -0500 > From: idfzos...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: Outsourcing Stories Good or Bad! > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > I would like to weight in here. Dealing with customers everyday, > unfortunately business has changed, what I am saying is a lot of places it > seems to me, don't have a lost of good technical folks. If a person is > willing to learn and acknowledge the source I have no problem. > > I have a problem when a person would like "us" do technical planning for > example for free without a SOW ...maybe I contracted too long, but I don't > like being used for free. > > > Scott > > On Sunday, February 28, 2016, Ed Gould <edgould1...@comcast.net> wrote: > > > On Feb 28, 2016, at 12:41 AM, baby eklavya wrote: > > > > *"The saddest part was the manager was not even literate on zOS systems. > >> All he knew was to save cost. So slowly most of the wannabe system > >> programmer left. Now he wants a 2 year experienced guys to run equal to > >> his > >> peer."* > >> This is exactly what i was trying to convey . At the end , they never save > >> anything . Whatever money they think they had saved by replacing > >> experienced staffs with freshers goes out again in the form of penalty , > >> missed SLA , change failures . > >> > >> Skill shortage is just one side of the story . When the work environment > >> is > >> controlled by such managers who only focus on saving cost , life becomes > >> too difficult for beginners who want to learn and enhance their skills . > >> They eventually lose their interest in the technology . > >> > >> I remember a recent quote from Forbes.com - "People don't leave the > >> companies , they leave their managers" > >> > >> __________________________SNIP__________________________________ > > > > I had one of those at a company I worked for. He was officially a gas > > meter maid that got promoted way over his position in life. > > He would come to work everyday and sharpen pencils and stare at his wall. > > He had no DP experience and wouldn't know how to logon to anything. > > I sympathize for you but he can be gotten around. Now if his superior is > > like him to you do have a problem. > > I found it better to start looking. > > > > Ed > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN