Maybe the confusion comes from the (mis)assumption that PDSESSHRING(EXTENDED) 
needs a CF. 
It needs XCF and GRS and both XCF and GRS don't need a CF, they are equally 
happy with CTC connectivity.

Kees.

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Of Jesse 1 Robinson
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Subject: Re: Advice needed - GRS across 2 sysplexes with shared dasd

None of those functions requires a coupling facility. We have both XCF and GRS 
(ring). And our basic sysplex has full PDSE support:

PDSESHARING(EXTENDED)     
PDSE_RESTARTABLE_AS(YES)  
PDSE1_MONITOR(YES,120,30)  

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.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
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Of Tom Marchant
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 6:53 AM
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Subject: (External):Re: Advice needed - GRS across 2 sysplexes with shared dasd

On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 23:33:48 +0000, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:

>We've had a three-member basic sysplex for 15 years..... Supported only 
>by CTCs. I can't speak to scaling, although I would expect GRS ring to 
>be the main inhibitor to serious upsizing. Give it a try. It should 
>give you the PDSE protection you need.

Maybe, but only for PDSESHARING(NORMAL).
PDSESHARING(EXTENDED) requires XCF as well as GRS connectivity.

--
Tom Marchant


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