Hello Skip , Were you able to find out what was causing this problem ?
Regards, Linda On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 4:10 AM, Jesse 1 Robinson <jesse1.robin...@sce.com> wrote: > Well, this is at once suddenly simpler and more complicated. First off, > PARMLIB content cannot matter because we're talking about early IPL. During > NIP OS doesn't even know where PARMLIB is located, let alone CONSOLxx > contents. > > It turns out that we've seen this problem before but did not recognize it > this time. After putting the console chpids back online, we got IPLed in > the usual way except for this message for each of three different chpids: > > IOS125I CHPID xx IS EXPERIENCING MULTIPLE I/O TIMEOUTS CAUSING PROLONGED > INITIALIZATION. > > Each of the three chpids connects a large number of Oracle/STK virtual > tape units. It appears that some or all of these devices are non-responsive > during IPL, causing MIH waits. So we configured the three tape chpids > offline and IPLed again. This time (with console chpids back offline) we > got NIP messages immediately on OpSysMsg screen. > > We're left with this puzzle. With console chpids online and tape chpids > also online, we still got NIP messages pretty quickly. But with console > chpids offline, delay was so bad we thought NIP messages were lost in outer > space. > > So we more or less understand the tape chpid problem. We do not understand > the difference in behavior with and without MCS consoles available. That > is, after putting tape chpids offline, NIP messages went immediately to HMC. > > We have opened a PMR with IBM. > > . > . > . > J.O.Skip Robinson > Southern California Edison Company > Electric Dragon Team Paddler > SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager > 323-715-0595 Mobile > 626-302-7535 Office > robin...@sce.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Field, Alan > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 2:18 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: (External):Re: IPLing z/OS 2.1+ with no NIP console > > Have you got an entry for the HMC in your CONSOLxx member? > > /********************************************************************/ > /* INTEGRATED 3270 CONSOLE ON HMC. Z/OS 2.1 AND LATER */ > /********************************************************************/ > /* */ > CONSOLE DEVNUM(HMCS) /* DEVICE NUMBER */ > AUTH(MASTER) /* ALL COMMANDS CAN BE ENETERED */ > USE(FC) /* FULL CAPABILITY */ > NAME(&SYSNAME.HMCS) /* CONSOLE NAME */ > ROUTCODE(1-10,12) /* 14=IEFACTRT, 15=TDS999 */ > CON(N) /* NON-CONVERSATIONAL MODE */ > SEG(19) /* NUMBER OF LINES THAT CAN BE DEL */ > DEL(R) /* ROLL */ > RNUM(39) /* MAX LINES IN ONE MESSAGE ROLL */ > RTME(1/4) /* NUMBER SECONDS BETWEEN MSG ROLL */ > MFORM(J,T,S) /* MESSAGE DISPLAY INCLUDES JOBNAME*/ > MSCOPE(*ALL) /* *ALL = DISPLAY ALL MSGS */ > AREA(NONE) /* SIZE OF OUT OF LINE DISPLAY AREA*/ > PFKTAB(PFKMSTR) /* NAME OF PFK TABLE */ > > Alan Field > Systems Engineer Principal > Blue Cross Blue Shield of MN > > 651.662.3546 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 4:15 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: IPLing z/OS 2.1+ with no NIP console > > We've discussed on this List configuring no NIP console device and using > HMC instead. I'm testing that practice for the future by configuring off > the two chpids that support all MCS/NIP consoles for one LPAR. I have done > that in the past when actual NIP device(s) would not work. NIP messages > showed up on Operating System Messages and all was fine. > > Now however we are getting no NIP messages at all. Three HMCs each with an > integrated 3270 at z/OS 2.1. We expected NIP messages on either the 3270 or > on traditional Op Sys Msg. Nada. Has anyone with a NIPless configuration > reached 2.1? Any special considerations? > > . > . > . > J.O.Skip Robinson > Southern California Edison Company > Electric Dragon Team Paddler > SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager > 323-715-0595 Mobile > 626-302-7535 Office > robin...@sce.com<mailto:robin...@sce.com> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
