SNOBOL ?? should have been distributed on a yellow tape .....

Chris Hoelscher
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 7:04 PM
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On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 18:47:21 -0400, Phil Smith III wrote:
>
>>"I got lots of great software that way!"
>
>*facepalm*
>
>Since it's Friday and we're swapping tape stories, back in the day, I 
>had a couple of red 3480 cartridges that I'd picked up somewhere. I'd 
>take 'em to customer sites, because it was usually easier to tell the 
>operators "It's the red one" when I needed it mounted or returned.
>
Legend is that Ralph Griswold, the author, mischievously distributed
SNOBOL4 on red flanged tapes (3420? 729?).  At some highly secured sites 
possessing a red tape was a security violation.

You were lucky.

>That is, until an operator put it into an STK silo. Seems the red 
>cartridge and the red laser didn't get along: the silo insisted the 
>slot was empty, and then of course wouldn't pull the cart to return it. 
>They had to power down the silo to extract it manually. After that, I 
>took two: a red and a black, and asked about silo use before providing either.
>
>Anyone know if Sterling Forest still has 3420s? Last time I was there
>(2004?) they did, and even a 7-track drive IIRC.

They could contract to cut service tapes for Ed.

-- gil

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