Patient: Doctor, it hurts when I do SUBMIT! Doctor: Nu, so don't do SUBMIT.
Maybe one of these days IBM will fix SUBMIT, but in the meantime just copy the job to the Internal Reader. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu> on behalf of Rob Scott <rsc...@rocketsoftware.com> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 11:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Subject: Re: 2 possible RFE --- ISPF & SDSF. >From what I can tell from the documentation, both native TSO SUBMIT and ISPF >SUBMIT (via ISPCTLx) do not allow job submission for anything other than >RECFM=FB LRECL=80 datasets. As SDSF "SJ" uses EDIF and implicitly ISPF SUBMIT it is limited by the TSO/ISPF restrictions. -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 3:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 2 possible RFE --- ISPF & SDSF. On Thu, 21 Jun 2018 09:34:48 +0000, Rob Scott wrote: >>> On occasion I have been sorely vexed when I hastily issued SUBMIT from the >>> SJ panel and discovered my sysins truncated to 80 characters. SUBMIT from >>> SJ should preserve the attributes of the original job on resubmit. > >I must admit to being slightly puzzled by this statement. > >JCL is, by definition, a sequence of 80-byte card images and any instream >SYSIN will be taken as a sequence of 80-byte characters. > No. >Maybe I am missing something here - please let me know if so. > Perhaps the last few decades of OS enhancements? If you know of any current z/OS documentation that mentions an 80 character limit applicable to SYSIN, let me know and I'll submit an RCF. I have long used either FTP or allocated SYSOUT=(,INTRDR) to submt jobs with much longer SYSIN. The TCPIP Ref. states a limit of 254 for FTP FILE=JES, which is enforced (archaic and needless, IMO). JES3 has supported long SYSIN as long as I can remember; JES2 since z/OS circa 1.5. -- gil ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ================================ Rocket Software, Inc. and subsidiaries ■ 77 Fourth Avenue, Waltham MA 02451 ■ Main Office Toll Free Number: +1 855.577.4323 Contact Customer Support: https://secure-web.cisco.com/1w02f89UkKWRWUYKrT0uDqjPxnIt4VXpmzY_VsFcPm7hkBsCP_befm_XvkdYDLnKoWzI_m45LbqQ7CZ6Mh0TWx7ZQAEfVNaVVUNjWs9qq638_xCTClIkzVf8J_dhWHl7XqYbk0BBHwlJWkTAraIEPF-BAQbVm0zaBQ4RyduXW1_NEI7aIPUntszdNTs08O4lIFO5lo3tVuA1TYL-HSLAKRlsRMgs5n8FQ6sbThwOTYHF-Q3M8_ADd4c5C57LjRBeVuZTYVoKSDu0ryqOPURtY748yc0SBg-2yxhksPwKCeVmmOHFkr3K28W7Y2mJs-4ALObA8L_hf0xgG_2XxP1ANuwUW2yP_p7h1iP2Vb78nnm-7RH-BE3K4NhT3YFmna1mNWCwPqSOKXoEvSGEJMpAY8tMyjhBABKs6i_XS4w4tpNIQKCGaiw49NqndpW8GgzMi/https%3A%2F%2Fmy.rocketsoftware.com%2FRocketCommunity%2FRCEmailSupport Unsubscribe from Marketing Messages/Manage Your Subscription Preferences - http://secure-web.cisco.com/1T_HRrdCzpoDqFewgReLzSOnFZw44QIBHeHnAUha8SnVbQkmQeCGaYVVx65b6CIt7mmJqnlJLoQPQFz5H5ub1vVpmG2t54NsHDpCa5skINsrFkD-qIgSCm___XnO3IheTYX2TupqJJvcs-yWjcPNPNrp6TcOo96bnELCCgo6PMcchi6bKcQG2tsSEx4-iGiUIN5B3ztHfb63M8bugjFEUGpC-T7H13m8M4Suf9zZ3EaPTSmMOvUtX8QyxavrH06pI54cVojhIuwQNUR29NGRirCTdxV-RjowIjHiK2NbVbullFMathMcL-Mmy93D7DFJfq8v77eBwvecLhmJbA0YVXexF2603bdTZhr9aC6kBiyfkVNsMYS1826K-lU4uwDEuTFliEXvyIZWEN9KCxwrARR6_4eSPR9nvEDrJvypnGll33DXbtndSMQsK4aMX3p4F/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rocketsoftware.com%2Fmanage-your-email-preferences Privacy Policy - http://secure-web.cisco.com/1SMuF3WeR490QLVNZPHsTfgoHXgonn5gC9lZZszVA2v_ktdyLtQX3YVhuiC9qhANVGlMrAJoDlUchBjJ5W-OTOo2FDU4_Fsz4s0i32JF9khYO_UOO6USSPehm9fe0bEMib---cPbIW0dCAYBO5pNE_-iG42uk_OxDq91MbmJcGtwh3O6WTYmS-Y53Au-KL7ZCwT-nj6BO8LXzSB8Gl3r0a-QoncNCiKvhf1oF4uM2fnsykNynBhnTAVnQ6gprrcEtHzyCizv2Hbk61wasDKF4Tg8Ia-WyEJXc9JdU7PbQKoPlXDr0UycWqaoKOBCKr4YtR2dG6TaGQuLD65z50Lc0P45_SfbB5_r0oQPUg2ATBlBNKAPeX_jC5Nicn9u1PoanEns_b2TTJQKc0HJJhbOaZM8xm34VJWXIFBHQrYacTu37arNxMWgp-wXv46lLcW1a/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rocketsoftware.com%2Fcompany%2Flegal%2Fprivacy-policy ================================ This communication and any attachments may contain confidential information of Rocket Software, Inc. All unauthorized use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify Rocket Software immediately and destroy all copies of this communication. Thank you. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
