Jerry, I agree, but zConnect EE was pricy like MQ..it’s hard to sell a product that will cost a customer more to install.
Regards, Scott On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 4:16 PM Jerry Whitteridge <jerry.whitteri...@ibm.com> wrote: > z/OSMF and z/OS Connect target different areas. I'd look at z/OSMF for > infrastructure tasks and z/OS Connect (its new name) for actual > applications. > > They both have the ability for API translation and exposure. > > Jerry Whitteridge > Delivery Manager / Mainframe Architect > GTS - Safeway Account > 602 527 4871 Mobile > jerry.whitteri...@ibm.com > > IBM Services > > IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> wrote on > 09/14/2018 12:47:09 PM: > > > From: scott Ford <idfli...@gmail.com> > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Date: 09/14/2018 12:47 PM > > Subject: Re: IBM Z and cloud > > Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> > > > > Phil,All: > > > > Exact question this am during a daily meeting. We looked zConnect but > > looked like was expensive to develope a product around, we are looking > > At Zosmf...kinda interesting, living proof you teach an old dawg new > tricks. > > > > > > Scott > > > > On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 5:54 AM R.S. <r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl> > wrote: > > > > > W dniu 2018-09-14 o 03:38, Phil Smith III pisze: > > > > Well, I appreciate the answers thus far, but they're vague and > > > platitudinous. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure, an application on Z should often stay on Z, but that's not what > > > anybody means by "cloud". In fact, given that the vast majority of > > > application environments are not on Z, saying "stay on <the platform>" > is, > > > if anything, an argument that Z is *not* a good cloud platform. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Resource sharing/virtualization are good, but ISTR one or two > companies > > > that are managing to do a bit of that on Intel (I think they're called > > > Amazon and Google and what's that other startup-oh yeah, Microsoft); > not > > > compelling, sorry. Yes, z/VM is the best virtualization platform in a > lot > > > of ways. But again, that ain't where the action is, and calling a tail > a > > > leg doesn't make it one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As for cost of instructions-TR/TRT and friends are also way cool. > > > Surprise, that isn't where applications spend most of their time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to more convincing arguments. > > > > > > Convicing? Whom to convince? Seriously, are we talking about rational > > > arguments or just convincing arguments? > > > I see no hope for mainframe when talking about "convincing" arguments. > > > Sorry, every "airline magazine" article or opinion claims it's old, > > > obsolete, and so on. Nevermind what is true. > > > > > > Regarding cloud - this is similar story, much less rational arguments a > > > lot of "convincing" ones. There is no single definition of cloud, but I > > > woudl say that EDS in the beginnings was kind of cloud - you compute on > > > someone else's computer. IT as a service. > > > Of course some people narrow the vision of cloud to Windows and M$ > > > subsystems (MSSQL, etc.), maybe also Linux with popular open-source > > > things lika Apache, mySQL, etc. So, there is no place for other > > > platforms. Why? Because nobody mentioned it. 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