I think Cloud means two different things on whether cloud is a noun or a verb. For those describing Cloud as a noun its a place where things are cheap and there is no infrastructure. Others describe noun as a verb which is about agility, process and speed. For the most part, when people describe z/OS as Cloud they are referring to the verb which means you can deploy and develop as fast as you can on cloud.
Thanks how I see the differentiation. Matt Hogstrom m...@hogstrom.org +1-919-656-0564 PGP Key: 0x90ECB270 I just read a book on Stockholm Syndrome, it was pretty bad at first, but, by the end I kind of liked it. > On Sep 15, 2018, at 8:00 PM, scott Ford <idfli...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Phil, > > My issue with cloud computing and multiple z/OS it’s not structured > financially for small ISVs like us. > Cost is a big issue with us.. > > Scott > > On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 1:22 PM Phil Smith III <li...@akphs.com> wrote: > >> OK, so what do we mean by "cloud"? What *customers* seem to mean is "a >> compute platform where I can run my stuff but not have to deal with buying >> hardware and racking and cabling it and in general all the work of running >> a data center". By which definition, of course, traditional timesharing >> fits. >> >> >> >> For x86, this is currently AWS and Google Cloud Platform and Microsoft >> Azure (and not HPE Helion). For z, it's more like the IBM Dallas developer >> systems, where you can rent a virtual machine that runs z/OS or z/VM or >> Linux, and then do whatever you want with that OS. >> >> >> >> My conclusion is that the vendors (and IBM) who are saying "IBM Z and >> cloud" are not being honest with themselves. Calling a tail a leg doesn't >> make it one, and saying "We like IBM Z and it *can* do cloud-ish stuff, >> therefore we will say it's good for cloud" is not a rational (much less >> convincing) argument. >> >> >> >> Again, I'd love to be proven wrong. But the relative silence on this >> thread tends to suggest that nobody else buys it either. Well, nobody >> besides Ginny & Co. >> >> >> >> .phsiii >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> > -- > Scott Ford > IDMWORKS > z/OS Development > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
